True, but neither do their "Sex And The City" female counterparts, yet the downtown of every city in North America has been revamped to make them happy.
But he has boyish smile. And when he's in the garage, he makes and gets everyone a coffee.
His biggest issue with McLaren is that he came in as the King and was going to teach Lando the secrets. By the time he left, he was down to "I don't know how to make the car better nor drive around the issues". While McLaren has made some big changes since last year beside RIC, they now have 2 drivers (just a guess) that can tell the engineers about what works and doesn't and maybe what is needed to make changes. Driver feedback when all you have is race weekends is crucial. From both drivers.
Weird thing, Alonso has done nothing in F1 for years yet many people (me included) thinks he's still a stud. The main reason is, he cares. I think his teammate issue has a lot to do with AM slowly sinking. The teammate stinks and brings nothing to the engineers to work with. The Vettel years at AM was with Vettel on a downward slope. Stroll looked like he had figured it out. He hasn't once he came up with a teammate with talent.
Last year after he knew he wasn't coming back, supposedly he was going to be at the tracks (regardless of Red Bull) working on some NetFlix thing that was not Driving to Survive. It would have been short lived. For the same reasons you mentioned.
In racing news, Jett Lawrence won the first-ever “Supermotocross World Championship” last Saturday at the LA Coliseum. The three-race series was a playoff of sorts combining the Supercross and Motocross seasons.
Jett is arguably weaker in SX and this showed during the SMX races. I’m eagerly awaiting the return of Tomac, a healthy Webb, etc. to see some real pressure out on Jett (outside of Ken Roczen).
Haiden Deegan took the 250 championship. Not a huge fan of that family (especially his dad and sister), but the kid sure can ride.
hey Jack, can you post a decoder table for those of us that don't pay that much attention to F1 and can't figure out half of what you are referring to (and are too lazy to go google it)? thanks.
nickname, driver name, team
And re your other topic - "Irritable Female Syndrome" oh my, let the "discussion" begin ....
Wanna have some fun? Explain “Resting Bitch Face” to a woman who has never heard of it.
I’ve done this with some cool women, and they howled with laughter because they know it’s true and can come up with examples of women who do it right away.
I had a long-term relationship with an otherwise out-of-my-league girl (a 7/8 scale clone of Gene Tierney) who had RBF. It scared off an amazing number of guys.
When I was doing desktop IT support and working in people's offices, I could always tell when they were talking to a lover or a spouse on the phone because their voice would soften.
Maybe men wouldn't feel the need to go their own way if the world hadn't made them into Untouchables.
Take away a man's possibilities for a good-paying job, an affordable home & lifestyle, a faithful & attractive wife, functional children, the respect of his fellow men and his necessity to society, and then tell him he's selfish & immature for resenting this all happening to him and frankly, you should thank God that men's blogs are the sole current manifestation of the resistance to this state of affairs.
While expats has always been a thing, Passport Bros are primarily a black thing. They are looking for anyone half way decent. Skin tone and culture doesn't matter to them. They are willing to show their backside to the west if they find some one. Chances are they will stay there and never bring them back to the states. Pretty intense when you are saying "Bye, and go fuck yourselves".
Because the home hunting grounds have no prey worth hunting. No one says they are guaranteed finding someone where ever they go, but where they are isn't working out to good for them. These guys are not sex tourists. They think they have better odds.
Who used to hear the term "Starter marriage"? And who primarily uses that term? And who is usually on the short end of that deal?
6 figures, 6 pack, 6 ft and a minimum of 6 below the waist seems to be a prerequisite in the US. If you don't have that, you are nothing.
Obviously not every woman believes that. But a lot do. How much time you have working through that kind until you find one that doesn't? Even then, you may not click, even though you know her to be a decent one for someone.
What they are doing is pretty drastic, but I wish them all the best and I really hope they end up finding what they are looking for.
Allegiance to one's homeland when the homeland treats you like crap is silly.
That is literally and factually untrue. I have never met a woman in person, whether I was pursuing them or not, who demanded any of those things from a partner lmao. Where do you get this stuff?
She doesn't even have to be that attractive. "Not obese" is the bar these days. I'm an old man now but 90% of women under 40 who are not obese are attractive enough to start a family with. That's about 15% of women. The average woman is 5'3" and weighs 170 lbs. Something is in the food or the water so it isn't entirely their fault but I see women walking around who make me look small. They're not even trying . I'm 6'2 and 255 right now. Trying to get back down to 220.
The tats I could do without but I would tolerate them; it's the facial piercings I can't stand. Nothing says you're comfortable with who you are quite like punching holes in your face and leaving metal in there where skin used to be.
EDIT: Mrs MD has no tats or piercings, but she does want to dye her hair gold.
My wife and I feel very differently about our daughters getting tattoos. Clearly, they weren't a deal breaker for me and I'm not about to start that fight by saying what I really mean "They are trashy"
Shame and mockery is said to work best. 'Wow she looks like a whore with all those tats.'
There is a possibly fictional account of a dad who started dressing in drag when dropping his 'trans curious' daughter off at school. That nipped it in the bud.
I have tattoos and so does my wife. If you don't want your kids to get tattoos, the easiest way is to get one for yourself. In an instant, the idea of getting a tattoo becomes lame and uncool to any teenager. You'll want to point it out to other parents once or twice a year to re-enforce it periodically.
You've just described Lewis Hamilton. Last couple of years there's been a brouhaha over his piercings and what would happen if a GRO accident happened to him. His excuse was "I can't remove them, they are a part of me".
Two of my four have tattoos. One daughter and one son. I think there is a generational perception. I don’t see THE tattoo, only A tattoo, which to me means trash. They see it as expressive body art and see the tattoo.
as a founder of the lbgp i aaaaalmost got a tattoo of my special pass put on my upper left arm--there was a parlor right over there...i'm glad i didn't.
Find a nose ring on a dude and there's usually a man bun included.
So independent, and such a free thinker that marches to their own drum beat and the drum beat of no one else.
Who's the biggest rebel in 2023? Someone covered in tats and piercings? Or someone with a buzz cut? Only guys though for the buzz cut with it being 2023.
"So what's that tattoo about?" It's tribal. 20+ years of that kind of tattoo and I have no idea what the fuck that means.
It’s the ring through the septum that makes me look away. It instantly reminds me of a farm animal, and wouldn’t you know, some of those girls do approximate the weight of certain 4-legged farm dwellers.
More than one native village has been wiped off the map by an angry volcano god because according to the sacrificial virgin, "Yeah, but he doesn't count."
I'm primarily thinking of the young women that seem to be waging a public war using their faces as the battlefield. I have several very happy, significantly tattooed employees, so it's not a blanket statement.
This is the thing I find most troubling. Men and women don't even try to look good any more. I don't know how the men's dress clothing industry is surviving. Stretch fabrics have been a curse on civilization.
I'm VERY guilty in this regard, and generally am smirking reading Jack's opinions on dressing himself, Kiton jackets and how much he spends on clothing.
HOWEVER, I have started making moves at reforming myself, although I never see myself getting to the same expense levels as Jack ever.
I think buying quality clothes can be economical. Three pair of quality shoes can last you a couple of decades. You can spend your money in your home country, keep a humble cobbler employed, and make most of your friends look poor and tasteless. Dressing well and looking confident can do wonders for the appeal of the so called unfuckables.
Hey, speaking of men's dress clothing: my son is 20 and in engineering school. Two weeks ago, we bought his first suit that he will wear to interview for internships. He chose a light gray single-breasted suit that looks great, though I advised him to go with navy or charcoal gray because a few old-school guys think a light-colored suit is "unprofessional."
Then the Senate shit-canned their dress code to accommodate a mentally-deficient oaf.
Guess I'm wrong, and a light-gray suit is fine for job interviews. Hell, maybe a polo and Dockers are fine. Maybe a T-shirt and Levi's are fine. Maybe a hoodie and bassaball shorts are fine.
In preparation for my court date when I got that second Misdemeanor Reckless Op earlier this year, I decided it was the perfect excuse to buy a proper suit. Got a nice charcoal grey Jos. A. Bank suit, white Bank shirt, a couple of Bank ties, new shoes, even socks and a belt. Spent almost a thousand bucks on that outfit, all told.
I was the best-dressed person in that courtroom. You could practically hear "Sharp Dressed Man" playing when I walked in with my lawyer.
I totally get why some men insist on wearing a suit every day.
There's gotta be something said about cheap suits (I'm not talking about your getup, I swear) because for a few hundred bucks (or less!) you can totally be the best dressed dude in any room.
Did Men's Wearhouse last year for my nephew's wedding. About 500 bucks. Best clothes buying experience in my life. Had the ties, shirt and shoes (though I had new heels put on) and belt already. The sales guy was good and very sharp. I had to wait about 3 weeks for the alterations. I come to the store to pick the suit up, and the kid (sales guy had to be in his 20s) sees me across the store and says "Your suit is over here". 3 weeks is a dang good retention of remembering someone who you interacted with for maybe an hour.
Funny thing, the woman seamstress in MW and the shoe cobbler were both eastern Europeans. Or maybe not funny.
When I got my first misdemeanor reckless driving, i was also the best dressed man in the court. The Judge thanked me for respecting the courtroom and my sentence (fine) wasn't too bad
That was from the Drive By Truckers. Some of the most depressing songs you will ever hear. That one is maybe 20 year or more old. "Southern" music with a red neck slant. But, the fact that at one time you could "Make it" with a small house, a couple of kids, a boat and be able to take a week or 2 on a lake, because of a factory job was true.
Automation one way or the other by the year 2023 was going to take a lot of those jobs away. But, you could be a citizen in good standing and do all the things your cohorts would do. And you may be satisfied with that life.
My dad had that life. WWII vet, never finished HS. Worked at the same place for 40 years. Was his own contractor for the house. Had keys to a lumber yard so he could grab some wood on a Sunday. He'd leave a note on what he took and pay up later. We had a small cottage on a lake for near 50 years. A company built the shell. He did almost everything himself. My uncle did the plumbing and a coworker did the wiring. But, the walls, floors kitchen he did all by himself. All the trees on the property we took down with hand saws. Dug the hole for the septic tank and leach field by hand.
My mom worked up until marriage.
Now? You are expected to bring things to the table which are unobtainable on a factory workers salary, if there are factory worker jobs. Because you can't, you are deemed useless. You get the contempt by everyone. So, a lot of guys, quit the game and do what they can do to just make themselves happy. It's not sex, they want the whole deal and it's not that obtainable.
It's one of the reasons Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond on Youtube has 73,000,000 views in a month.
I have a bunch of DBT albums but I've soured on Jason Isbell. What is it with southern musicians who feel like they have to be politically left of center? I guess it's like how formerly religious people are like catnip to the publishing industry. Write a book about the terrors of being an Evangelical wife and you'll probably get a contract. And no, Steve Earle isn't as good of a songwriter as Bob Dylan is.
I do not listen to any of Isbell's stuff since he left DbT. Whiney sack of shit. Steve Earle lost his muse when he went clean. Just another whiney bitch now. Shoulda stayed on the horse and died the good death of a misunderstood junkie.
Well I ranted way too much in the last racing comments, I'll attempt to keep my big mouth shut this time. I'll probably fail.
But I will say, I'd make an attempt to stash Lawson with Williams for a year with the provision he can be grabbed for AT or RB if needed. Needed if RIC steps on his dick or moves up, or Perez falls deeper into whatever mental state he is in. RBR seems to think RIC still has something. Maybe they are just doing him a solid for old times sake. Next year's car is supposedly going to be based on as many RB parts as they can use. His Silverstone test was in a RB car.
GR must be thinking "I waited that long and this is my future?" 2026 when everything is reset might give him a chance.
I've never seen Max carry over a grudge into the next race. It looks like he took the summer break "You never had a decent teammate" and "You are a bunch of cheaters" because of TD-18 to heart and channeled his inner Ivan Drago, "I must break you".
Now, I'll take a breath. I like Max, but I am at a point where anyone "NOT HAM" wins or finishes in front of "HAM" gets a thumbs up by me. Where some people "Hate Watch" TV shows, I am now "Hate Watching" F1.
I guess I failed at what I said in the 1st paragraph.
Someone has to be last. The current iteration of Williams, is at the tail end a lot and it's fine, because they are trying. Going through the motions though is not.
I wish there was a clause that teams HAD TO FINISH at least 7th once in a five year period or they would not be allowed to race. Which would mean selling the team to someone who wanted to try. If you can't do that once in 5 years, it's on purpose. What has happened to Haas is amazing. I don't think there's ever been a team that started out mid pack and then got progressively worse. It looks intentional. Last year Steiner sounded as if the MoneyGram money was going to be their ticket up. Then they design a car that burns the tires off in a lap or 2. "But Hulk Qs better than KMAG!!!!!" They don't give points out in Q.
Yes that is what has me confused. On a great trajectory and then just like they go on life support. Gene is not like that in any of his pursuits. Like Penske and others he prefers to be out front but Formula 1 may be a harder nut to crack or it’s intentional with funding. I don’t have any answers. Other than I am still cheering for the home team.
I had the privilege of meeting Gene and Gunther when the team was being formed, and talking to them about it. The impression I got at the time was that Haas F1 was little more than an extended advertisement for high-end motorsports and aerospace adoption of their machine tools.
I am sure his equipment is used by all the teams in addition to other industries and has the business case for investing, but he doesn’t seem like the type to half ass anything. But it may be a case of having too much to concentrate on. Hard to excel when you expand too much.
Maybe he needs to partner with Mario Andretti and the family. I still hope for better results. Was hopeful that Schumacher would have thrived there. Will see if Mick has the family talent.
Someone asked Horner if Liam should go to Williams. He said, cryptically, "I don't think they would want him for just a year." Which SHOULD mean that Liam is going to Red Bull, but also COULD mean that they are going to put Danny Ric in the RB20 to play jester for Max while Liam seasons in the AlphaTauri. That seems like a dangerous game to me unless they know for a fact that next year's RedBull will be strong enough for Max to win constructors by himself AGAIN.
Say what you will, but RB has treated their failures very well because of the B team and rarely does there seem to be hard feelings. Daniil "The Torpedo" Kvyat being the main exception. Most of the time when you are out, you become a non-person.
Anyone though doing business with them needs to have their eyes wide open. "It's not Fair" is a goofy take when it comes to them. That's how they operate.
Max could have gotten the exact same treatment. Finishes 12th for Toro Rosso. Mid pack the next year. 5th race gets called up and wins.
I believe they are the greatest racing team on the planet.
At the moment they have a 5 into 4 scenario, but that will be resolved when Checo is gone. He may decide to retire “gracefully” after 2024; he may not get his contract renewed; he may be moved aside mid-2024 in favor of Ricciardo/Tsunoda/Lawson.
I think MGTOW is a pretty daring position to take. Most of the stuff I do is only because I want to be a good father and husband. If I didn't care about finding a woman or making sure my bloodline didn't die out, what's the point? Why would I bother?
As someone who has more than tripled his income after becoming a father, you wouldn't bother. Something women do not seem to understand it most men don't work cause they enjoy it. Job aren't fulfilling. Working mostly sucks.
I'm honestly shocked there isn't more murderous rampage and elliot rodgers out there. Go kill 20 people and chicks will write you love letters in prison. Hell, you might even be able to get married and get conjugal visits*
*Everything I've learned about conjugal visits I've learned from TV. I hope this isn't true.
My friend was locked up in Kansas for 3 years. Being a relatively sharp fellow he was on work release in an IT gig. The company owner was happy to have him for Pennie’s on the dollar and he was able to maintain a relationship throughout that later led to marriage.
It's like school shooters. They're the ones who pulled the trigger, but they were driven to it. Society bears SOME blame and frankly, any one of us would be the gunman if pushed far enough, or in the right direction.
If I didn't have a wife and kids there is NO WAY I would have stuck it out at my old job as long as I did. But they needed me to. I'm a much better father/husband now that I have a decent job with very little work-related stress.
I'm accidentally a "passport bro" so she's a loyal Japanese lady who would never do that to me. In fact, I work a lot less than any Japanese husband would back in her home country.
I find it hard to believe their performance fell off that much for only one race.
That said I fully admit to having been overtaken by a certain dementia when it comes to conspiracy theories. I blame Covid and the guy showing up sixty years later talking about the bullet he placed on the stretcher.
Mark Hughes (Motorsport Magazine F1 guru) explained that the Singapore street circuit is so rough that it necessitates a greater ride height than other tracks, and that Red Bull's aero advantage is largely through the interation of their floor and the track. They were unable to find a good setup with this year's car and the Singapore rough track. The Japan track is relatively smooth like the other circuits so performance was resumed. I'm just relating what I read, and have no dog in the hunt so please no crazed response aimed at me. :+)
If the average race track was Singapore bumpy they'd have designed the car for Singapore bumpy. The wailing and gnashing of teeth that RB is playing games is ridiculous.
The only way Japan for the WCC only works because of the wins up to this point. Nothing more, nothing less.
And with Honda only on board for 2 more years, it's not really like they have to kiss Honda's butt.
Sitting in a waiting room Monday night I felt the subsonic floor rumble of a subway. There is no subterranean transport in metro Denver. It took me a few moments to realize it was caused by a very heavy woman crossing the room. No exaggeration, the water in the bottle perched on the armrest rippled just like in Jurrasic Park.
When I was a young guy, one of the older guys at work used to accrue the kind of smut magazines that the post office wouldn’t deliver. He left an issue of one called “Plumpers” in a truck one day. Traumatized three or four of us 20 something’s.
i wish i'd bought a truly exceptional perfect-bound magazine in the milano airport 45 years ago; i didn't because then i wouldn't've had enough lira for an espresso and a croissant. it was a cross between hustler and the robb report. i looked for another issue when i got back a year later but it must've been a one-off. never seen anything remotely like it.
I took a bare bones trip to Europe in 1985 along with two friends. No planning, just got a flight to Brussels and rented a car.
We spent a couple of days in Paris, during which my buddy bought a magazine that sounds exactly like what you’re describing.
We then headed for Switzerland, arriving at the border after dark and in a snowstorm. The checkpoint was closed for the night.
Having nowhere to go, we slept in the car, three guys in a Ford Escort. We only had enough gas to run the engine for heat a few minutes every hour.
I awoke in the morning to a tapping on the window. It was a Swiss border guard tapping the butt of his submachine gun on the window. He was pointing at the back seat.
There lay my friend with the magazine open to some lurid display; next to him a half empty bottle of wine with the cork floating in it.
Had a competition with a close friend in my late 20s (back when high speed internet was a rare thing) where we would compile the most bizarre and offensive (but still legal) things we could find on the internet and save for the other. There was some odd stuff out there even then.
Wow I do live under a rock and had no idea any of this was going on. Older and happily married I think I should have been a little more astute to what my son may be going through. A lot to unpack and consider. Now I have homework to do.
The MGTOW thing is only baffling to people who are threatened by it. I have friends who would be classified as incels. Some decided to “own it” and claim to be happier just doing their own thing. They’ve resigned themselves to the fact that they may die alone and therefore will keep living life as they see fit. For some, that means pursuing personal wealth and hobbies. For others, it’s video games and playing guitar. Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?
The last six months of my second college attempt, I went into “monk mode” and completely shut out all non-essential activities until I secured an internship over spring break. When you are laser-focused upon yourself, the lack of relationship doesn’t matter.
I understand how someone who has NEVER felt the touch of a woman can be comfortable with the MGTOW lifestyle. On one hand, they don’t really know what they’re missing. On the other, they’ve resigned themselves that they will never truly know.
To put it in car guy terms: I know that I want a McLaren F1, but I’ve never driven one and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Why let it keep me up at night?
I didn't know there was an Aston Martin version of that ad. I've seen the BMW version, which was allegedly a concept developed by a Greek ad agency and then leaked. Greek is relevant because their age of consent is 15, and the girl pictured looks younger than 18. Sounds like BMW never used it.
Hopefully I'm not parroting an online myth. Hard to find reputable sources for this.
Related to other comments here, the Aston Martin logo looks like a tramp stamp.
What you gotta do is get yourself a nice FC RX-7, a drop top so it's easy to get topless. There's a little maintenance involved, but that little bit of love goes a long way.
I'm a live and let live type of guy but the problem is those other people will not leave us alone. "You do your thing and I'll do mine" turned into "I'm gonna teach your five year old that anal sex is fun"
In the UK a woman went into a store. She was offered a Pride bag for free. "Nah, I'm good". The cops found her and told her that could be considered a hate crime. The store said she was no longer allowed to shop there.
Of course I learned that from Paul Joseph Watson. Who worked for Alex Jones.
I think MGTOW and Incels are two different things.
MGTOW is about accepting you aren't getting the dates you want with the people you want and finding a way to live your life the best way you can without them. It's owning and taking responsibility for the celibacy.
Incels are involuntarily celibate. They don't take ownership of it, they blame others for denying them. That blame can, especially when they get into some online echo chamber, metastasize into violence. That is why DHS is involved.
As a clueless guy who couldn't get the women I wanted, I stopped and took a good long look in the mirror and thought about where I was falling short. In my case, it was mostly a fear of putting myself out there. Once I realized you had to risk rejection and ask for dates, I started doing it. Both the MGTOW and the incels could do this, too, but they'd have to adjust their standards and nether group is willing to do that.
I will admit that I find it annoying at times that EVERYTHING in our culture is now about women and fuck all men. Look at how 'Diverting Hate' is all about protecting woman from 'Misogyny' when Misandry is far more prevalent and a keystone of our current society. Everything about our society is about putting down and destroying men.
Look at that whole recent 'do you think of Rome' bit. In it men are talking about how they care about current events, international events, and how they're worried about that affecting their families and their wives/girlfriends. Meanwhile said wives and girlfriends are all laughing at them and totally missing the point, because men are stupid and dumb and they should be more concerned with watching Real Housewives, because that addresses REAL AND IMPORTANT issues.
Ever wonder why women live longer than men nowadays? It's not biology! All things being equal we used to live the same. But now Healthcare and society itself is focused on taking care of women while grinding men into the dirt. THAT's why women live longer - and lets not even get started in on suicide which women hardly ever do but men are doing in record numbers.
It's funny how a woman wrote the article about men, and about how we're all 'raging' and the subtext is clear - she doesn't really give a shit about men, she's just worried that 'they're not under control' and that they 'don't act like women'. All of the 'solutions' they propose are very much about making men like women. I mean look at the examples of 'male rage' she had to go back NINE years to find one?
Oh truly it is an epidemic!
The truth is, it's men that do all the work and all the hard jobs. It's men that build and maintain society. And now that men are finally starting to say 'fuck it, you don't value me, I'm done' that women are starting to become afraid. Why do you think they're importing all of those military aged young men?
They're doing it to replace their brothers and boyfriends who have grown tired of their shit. And wow are they going to be unhappy when they find out that third world 'achmed' believes his b***h should be on her knees and do as he says or he'll blacken her other eye, takes over.
Hillary Clinton said that the major victims of war are women and children.
The WSJ article is just the latest in a series by women about what's wrong with men. Maybe men aren't the problem and it's the feminized system that's messed up.
The “Manoshere” still exists? I thought everybody involved in that got canceled, disappeared so they wouldn’t get canceled, or redirected their grift to a wider audience.
Besides, it all lost any value when the tone of those that remained shifted from sharing advice to better understand, get, and keep women, to celibate religious cultism. Guys who worship the elusive “tradwife” but are still too broken to land any woman.
MGTOW is an inherently self-defeating movement, just like the Shakers or anyone else who chose to remove themselves from the evils of society. It’s laughable that the feds would throw pocket change at trying to defeat it unless they’re more clever than I give them credit for and are using reverse psychology.
It always existed. It just never had a name. I doubt anyone has been turned by it. It's more of a "Hey, that makes sense" idea. It's ultimately indifference. No one is trying to change anyone. There's no secret decoder rings nor a secret handshake. It is ultimately a group of one and that is you.
It's "I do my thing. You do yours." If someone succeeds that way, who's to say they can't do that? If they don't? Oh well.
In some cases, it's nothing more that trust but verify. Don't assume that all women are sugar and spice and everything nice. Treat them as adults and equals, and if they come up short, dump them. For others, it's living in the mountains wearing animal pelts.
Now, the grifters that a different thing entirely. No one has the "Secret" because there isn't any.
I found that article to be a disappointment. When I started reading it, I thought there was a chance they would bring up the war on men, etc., but it was all sanctimony and quite patronizing.
To elaborate on Speed's point, it is not just limited to men. Brexit, Trump, whatever, it's never "does this movement have any legitimate grievances," but HOW DARE THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE DO THIS.
Unless, "these people" are military age "migrants" or pedophiles.
True, but neither do their "Sex And The City" female counterparts, yet the downtown of every city in North America has been revamped to make them happy.
The women have it worse, in my view. As a rough rule of thumb:
Those women have an inherent “value” - youth, beauty, fertility - that declines over time, and there’s not much they can do about it.
Men have to create their own value, but they can bounce back again and again.
So which would you rather be?
The one that gets paid just to exist.
I'd get bored.
We sure Danny ric isn't 62? Boomer joke!
But he has boyish smile. And when he's in the garage, he makes and gets everyone a coffee.
His biggest issue with McLaren is that he came in as the King and was going to teach Lando the secrets. By the time he left, he was down to "I don't know how to make the car better nor drive around the issues". While McLaren has made some big changes since last year beside RIC, they now have 2 drivers (just a guess) that can tell the engineers about what works and doesn't and maybe what is needed to make changes. Driver feedback when all you have is race weekends is crucial. From both drivers.
Weird thing, Alonso has done nothing in F1 for years yet many people (me included) thinks he's still a stud. The main reason is, he cares. I think his teammate issue has a lot to do with AM slowly sinking. The teammate stinks and brings nothing to the engineers to work with. The Vettel years at AM was with Vettel on a downward slope. Stroll looked like he had figured it out. He hasn't once he came up with a teammate with talent.
Last year after he knew he wasn't coming back, supposedly he was going to be at the tracks (regardless of Red Bull) working on some NetFlix thing that was not Driving to Survive. It would have been short lived. For the same reasons you mentioned.
In racing news, Jett Lawrence won the first-ever “Supermotocross World Championship” last Saturday at the LA Coliseum. The three-race series was a playoff of sorts combining the Supercross and Motocross seasons.
Jett is arguably weaker in SX and this showed during the SMX races. I’m eagerly awaiting the return of Tomac, a healthy Webb, etc. to see some real pressure out on Jett (outside of Ken Roczen).
Haiden Deegan took the 250 championship. Not a huge fan of that family (especially his dad and sister), but the kid sure can ride.
How society treats young men. Society is the dog
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I see it as "society is the flames, and the dog is what society EXPECTS from young men."
Sort of a boiling frog thing.
hey Jack, can you post a decoder table for those of us that don't pay that much attention to F1 and can't figure out half of what you are referring to (and are too lazy to go google it)? thanks.
nickname, driver name, team
And re your other topic - "Irritable Female Syndrome" oh my, let the "discussion" begin ....
Wanna have some fun? Explain “Resting Bitch Face” to a woman who has never heard of it.
I’ve done this with some cool women, and they howled with laughter because they know it’s true and can come up with examples of women who do it right away.
My wife has resting bitch face. She says it keeps the creeps away.
My daughter has a non-trivial case. I sure do hope your wife is right!
Teach her how to punch throats and some judo throws, she’ll be more than fine.
Like, kinda-hot Taylor Swift RBF or pantsuited HR harridan Demi Moore RBF?
I had a long-term relationship with an otherwise out-of-my-league girl (a 7/8 scale clone of Gene Tierney) who had RBF. It scared off an amazing number of guys.
Did she soften when you approached her, or was it like the disco scene in "Scarface" but you pushed through anyway?
Her smile was 10/10 so the second I told her a joke, the day I asked her out, the RBF was defeated.
When I was doing desktop IT support and working in people's offices, I could always tell when they were talking to a lover or a spouse on the phone because their voice would soften.
Maybe men wouldn't feel the need to go their own way if the world hadn't made them into Untouchables.
Take away a man's possibilities for a good-paying job, an affordable home & lifestyle, a faithful & attractive wife, functional children, the respect of his fellow men and his necessity to society, and then tell him he's selfish & immature for resenting this all happening to him and frankly, you should thank God that men's blogs are the sole current manifestation of the resistance to this state of affairs.
While expats has always been a thing, Passport Bros are primarily a black thing. They are looking for anyone half way decent. Skin tone and culture doesn't matter to them. They are willing to show their backside to the west if they find some one. Chances are they will stay there and never bring them back to the states. Pretty intense when you are saying "Bye, and go fuck yourselves".
But why should one have to abandon one's home to find a proper mate?
You shouldn't.
YOU DON'T .
There ~ I fixed it for you .
-Nate
You do though. That's basically what college is for these days.
Sure as hell isn't for gaining marketable skills.
That depends on what you're willing to tolerate.
There's Good Crazy and Bad Crazy.
Because the home hunting grounds have no prey worth hunting. No one says they are guaranteed finding someone where ever they go, but where they are isn't working out to good for them. These guys are not sex tourists. They think they have better odds.
Who used to hear the term "Starter marriage"? And who primarily uses that term? And who is usually on the short end of that deal?
6 figures, 6 pack, 6 ft and a minimum of 6 below the waist seems to be a prerequisite in the US. If you don't have that, you are nothing.
Obviously not every woman believes that. But a lot do. How much time you have working through that kind until you find one that doesn't? Even then, you may not click, even though you know her to be a decent one for someone.
What they are doing is pretty drastic, but I wish them all the best and I really hope they end up finding what they are looking for.
Allegiance to one's homeland when the homeland treats you like crap is silly.
The whole idea of a starter marriage is obnoxious and hateful to me, as it should be to all people of decency and good will.
This is the first time I've heard the term starter marriage. It's frightening to know there are people who think that way.
Yeah, and some use that term, and mindset, GOING INTO IT.
That is literally and factually untrue. I have never met a woman in person, whether I was pursuing them or not, who demanded any of those things from a partner lmao. Where do you get this stuff?
Jazz players went to France and other European cities post WWII for personal and artistic freedom.
She doesn't even have to be that attractive. "Not obese" is the bar these days. I'm an old man now but 90% of women under 40 who are not obese are attractive enough to start a family with. That's about 15% of women. The average woman is 5'3" and weighs 170 lbs. Something is in the food or the water so it isn't entirely their fault but I see women walking around who make me look small. They're not even trying . I'm 6'2 and 255 right now. Trying to get back down to 220.
Most American women are not unattractive - underneath the 60 extra pounds and the tats and the body count.
The tats I could do without but I would tolerate them; it's the facial piercings I can't stand. Nothing says you're comfortable with who you are quite like punching holes in your face and leaving metal in there where skin used to be.
EDIT: Mrs MD has no tats or piercings, but she does want to dye her hair gold.
My wife and I feel very differently about our daughters getting tattoos. Clearly, they weren't a deal breaker for me and I'm not about to start that fight by saying what I really mean "They are trashy"
Shame and mockery is said to work best. 'Wow she looks like a whore with all those tats.'
There is a possibly fictional account of a dad who started dressing in drag when dropping his 'trans curious' daughter off at school. That nipped it in the bud.
There's a reason female tats are called 'tramp stamps' .
-Nate
I don't care if fake-trans-dad is a fake story or not, I love it too much not to believe.
"The winner will be showered with praise! The loser will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore!"
Leviticus 19:28
To be fair, if you're Christian, Jesus broke that old covenant so we can feel free to disregard Leviticus et al.
You think the Nazi's choice to use tattoos to put Holerith numbers (so IBM card readers could help keep track) on Jews' arms was coincidental?
By the way, the reference to cutting probably has to do with scarification, rather than neurotic teenage girls.
Did you look up the verse while taking a bite of some nice, juicy jumbo shrimp?
I have tattoos and so does my wife. If you don't want your kids to get tattoos, the easiest way is to get one for yourself. In an instant, the idea of getting a tattoo becomes lame and uncool to any teenager. You'll want to point it out to other parents once or twice a year to re-enforce it periodically.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_V_6bD3ibj6k/TTHTUBLEOTI/AAAAAAAAAIY/bDZr2BFEqv4/s4000/HR-Goku-GT-SS.jpg
You've just described Lewis Hamilton. Last couple of years there's been a brouhaha over his piercings and what would happen if a GRO accident happened to him. His excuse was "I can't remove them, they are a part of me".
"Okay, we'll just remove them by force then"
Two of my four have tattoos. One daughter and one son. I think there is a generational perception. I don’t see THE tattoo, only A tattoo, which to me means trash. They see it as expressive body art and see the tattoo.
Both my brothers and my sister all have tats and I don't hold it against them. I just don't see the appeal myself.
as a founder of the lbgp i aaaaalmost got a tattoo of my special pass put on my upper left arm--there was a parlor right over there...i'm glad i didn't.
Tattoos were cool when the wearers of them were guys that battled up Suribachi or fought Kamikaze off Okinawa.
Now they drink kombucha and eat sushi. (I like sushi but I'm not getting tats of it)
I've watched anime my whole life. I have no problem with green hair.
As long as it's natural.
You mean as long as the carpet matches the drapes.
Oh wait, no carpet...
Bare matches with everything!
Septum piercings look bad on literally everyone, no exceptions.
Find a nose ring on a dude and there's usually a man bun included.
So independent, and such a free thinker that marches to their own drum beat and the drum beat of no one else.
Who's the biggest rebel in 2023? Someone covered in tats and piercings? Or someone with a buzz cut? Only guys though for the buzz cut with it being 2023.
"So what's that tattoo about?" It's tribal. 20+ years of that kind of tattoo and I have no idea what the fuck that means.
Biggest rebel now is the dude who acts and carries himself like a man of the '50s.
Nothing says "daddy issues" like a septum piercing.
It’s the ring through the septum that makes me look away. It instantly reminds me of a farm animal, and wouldn’t you know, some of those girls do approximate the weight of certain 4-legged farm dwellers.
If the shoe (bull ring?) fits...
I can’t stand Will Buxton
Does anybody enjoy his work, i wonder.
Dresses like a hipster with skinny jeans. Except he doesn't wear jeans.
No. The ones that seem to are related to the money.
I have nightmares of Beth Mowins providing F1 commentary.
Most men can get past the body count if it isn't too egregious. What really ticks men off is "I enthusiastically did it for him but won't for you"
Where IS the line between "Sociable" and "Frat Mattress," anyway?
2 more than what my wife slept with before she met me. I have no idea what that number is and never want to know.
Spot on.
I think this is a function of knowing that every girl you meet has already slept with a few guys at the bare minimum. Probably a lot more in college.
More than one native village has been wiped off the map by an angry volcano god because according to the sacrificial virgin, "Yeah, but he doesn't count."
TOSS IN ANOTHER ONE
The corollate to that joke is 'anal doesn't count'.
I love Joe vs The Volcano.
Tattoos and face piercings are an expression of anger and misery.
And gang membership.
Based on photos of criminals I’ve seen, I’ve always thought that anyone getting a neck tattoo should have to register with their State and the Feds.
If you have to register a gun, you should have to register a neck tattoo .
Register a GUN? Where do you live?
...and "Please don't hire me" tags....
As someone who is quite happy and very easygoing who also has a full sleeve on my left arm, I'd wholeheartedly disagree.
I'm primarily thinking of the young women that seem to be waging a public war using their faces as the battlefield. I have several very happy, significantly tattooed employees, so it's not a blanket statement.
"They're not even trying"
This is the thing I find most troubling. Men and women don't even try to look good any more. I don't know how the men's dress clothing industry is surviving. Stretch fabrics have been a curse on civilization.
I'm VERY guilty in this regard, and generally am smirking reading Jack's opinions on dressing himself, Kiton jackets and how much he spends on clothing.
HOWEVER, I have started making moves at reforming myself, although I never see myself getting to the same expense levels as Jack ever.
I think buying quality clothes can be economical. Three pair of quality shoes can last you a couple of decades. You can spend your money in your home country, keep a humble cobbler employed, and make most of your friends look poor and tasteless. Dressing well and looking confident can do wonders for the appeal of the so called unfuckables.
Agree, although if you're referring to buying clothes overseas, quality costs about the same everywhere.
I don't have to worry about the unfuckable part, but for those in the market, this is absolutely true.
I just took the average Americans dress code a bit too far...
If it makes you feel any better I can't justify dropping 9k on a jacket either
I could buy an entire wardrobe in that and have money left over...
I know too may people who have spent more than that on China manufactured outdoor clothing with popular brand labels attached.
Oh man I hate that overbranded modern polyester crap so much
$9,000 for a jacket?
What are you, a character on a cop show?
https://us.kiton.com/collections/men-blazer-jackets
YOU THINK I'M JOKING
Hey, speaking of men's dress clothing: my son is 20 and in engineering school. Two weeks ago, we bought his first suit that he will wear to interview for internships. He chose a light gray single-breasted suit that looks great, though I advised him to go with navy or charcoal gray because a few old-school guys think a light-colored suit is "unprofessional."
Then the Senate shit-canned their dress code to accommodate a mentally-deficient oaf.
Guess I'm wrong, and a light-gray suit is fine for job interviews. Hell, maybe a polo and Dockers are fine. Maybe a T-shirt and Levi's are fine. Maybe a hoodie and bassaball shorts are fine.
In a world where we seem to be racing to bottom, it is becoming increasingly easy for your son to differentiate himself from his peers.
What he said. The silver lining of modern "attire".
In preparation for my court date when I got that second Misdemeanor Reckless Op earlier this year, I decided it was the perfect excuse to buy a proper suit. Got a nice charcoal grey Jos. A. Bank suit, white Bank shirt, a couple of Bank ties, new shoes, even socks and a belt. Spent almost a thousand bucks on that outfit, all told.
I was the best-dressed person in that courtroom. You could practically hear "Sharp Dressed Man" playing when I walked in with my lawyer.
I totally get why some men insist on wearing a suit every day.
There's gotta be something said about cheap suits (I'm not talking about your getup, I swear) because for a few hundred bucks (or less!) you can totally be the best dressed dude in any room.
Did Men's Wearhouse last year for my nephew's wedding. About 500 bucks. Best clothes buying experience in my life. Had the ties, shirt and shoes (though I had new heels put on) and belt already. The sales guy was good and very sharp. I had to wait about 3 weeks for the alterations. I come to the store to pick the suit up, and the kid (sales guy had to be in his 20s) sees me across the store and says "Your suit is over here". 3 weeks is a dang good retention of remembering someone who you interacted with for maybe an hour.
Funny thing, the woman seamstress in MW and the shoe cobbler were both eastern Europeans. Or maybe not funny.
When I got my first misdemeanor reckless driving, i was also the best dressed man in the court. The Judge thanked me for respecting the courtroom and my sentence (fine) wasn't too bad
Yep. Lycra and stretch material in jeans makes all of these “ladies” try to stuff them pounds of crap into a five pound bag. It is disgusting
absolutely redlining the factor of safety on those things
There ought to be a law!
The Hollowing out of jobs. You could work on a factory line and "Make it".
You want to grow up to paint houses like me A trailer in my yard till you're 23
You want to be old after 42 years Keep dropping the hammer and grinding the gears
Well, I used to go out in a Mustang A 302 Mach One in green
Me and your Mama made you in the back And I sold it to buy her a ring
And I learned not to say much of nothing And I figured you already know
But in case you don't or maybe forgot
I'll lay it out real nice and slow
Don't call what your wearing an outfit
Don't ever say your car is broke
Don't worry about losing your accent
A Southern Man tells better jokes
Have fun but stay clear of the needle
Call home on your sister's birthday
Don't tell them you're bigger than Jesus
Don't give it away, don't give it away
Six months in a St. Florian foundry
They call it Industrial Park
Then hospital maintenance and Tech School
Just to memorize Frigidaire parts
But I got to missing your Mama
And I got to missing you too
And I went back to painting for my old man
And I guess that's what I'll always do
So don't let him take who you are boy
And don't try to be who you ain't
And don't let me catch you in Ken dale
With a bucket of wealthy-man's paint
Don't call what your wearing an outfit
Don't ever say your car is broke
Don't sing with a fake British accent
Don't act like your family's a joke
Have fun, but stay clear of the needle
Call home on your sister's birthday
Don't tell them you're bigger than Jesus
Don't give it away, don't give it away
That was from the Drive By Truckers. Some of the most depressing songs you will ever hear. That one is maybe 20 year or more old. "Southern" music with a red neck slant. But, the fact that at one time you could "Make it" with a small house, a couple of kids, a boat and be able to take a week or 2 on a lake, because of a factory job was true.
Automation one way or the other by the year 2023 was going to take a lot of those jobs away. But, you could be a citizen in good standing and do all the things your cohorts would do. And you may be satisfied with that life.
My dad had that life. WWII vet, never finished HS. Worked at the same place for 40 years. Was his own contractor for the house. Had keys to a lumber yard so he could grab some wood on a Sunday. He'd leave a note on what he took and pay up later. We had a small cottage on a lake for near 50 years. A company built the shell. He did almost everything himself. My uncle did the plumbing and a coworker did the wiring. But, the walls, floors kitchen he did all by himself. All the trees on the property we took down with hand saws. Dug the hole for the septic tank and leach field by hand.
My mom worked up until marriage.
Now? You are expected to bring things to the table which are unobtainable on a factory workers salary, if there are factory worker jobs. Because you can't, you are deemed useless. You get the contempt by everyone. So, a lot of guys, quit the game and do what they can do to just make themselves happy. It's not sex, they want the whole deal and it's not that obtainable.
It's one of the reasons Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond on Youtube has 73,000,000 views in a month.
Drive by Truckers are the Truth. And real men.
I have a bunch of DBT albums but I've soured on Jason Isbell. What is it with southern musicians who feel like they have to be politically left of center? I guess it's like how formerly religious people are like catnip to the publishing industry. Write a book about the terrors of being an Evangelical wife and you'll probably get a contract. And no, Steve Earle isn't as good of a songwriter as Bob Dylan is.
I do not listen to any of Isbell's stuff since he left DbT. Whiney sack of shit. Steve Earle lost his muse when he went clean. Just another whiney bitch now. Shoulda stayed on the horse and died the good death of a misunderstood junkie.
Isn’t Isbell the douche nozzle that was running down George Jones? probably just to stunt on traditional country people.
Yeah, I try to not get into the politics of the people behind DBT. Still trying to figure out if the music is lie or not.
Shonna Tucker excepted
Well I ranted way too much in the last racing comments, I'll attempt to keep my big mouth shut this time. I'll probably fail.
But I will say, I'd make an attempt to stash Lawson with Williams for a year with the provision he can be grabbed for AT or RB if needed. Needed if RIC steps on his dick or moves up, or Perez falls deeper into whatever mental state he is in. RBR seems to think RIC still has something. Maybe they are just doing him a solid for old times sake. Next year's car is supposedly going to be based on as many RB parts as they can use. His Silverstone test was in a RB car.
GR must be thinking "I waited that long and this is my future?" 2026 when everything is reset might give him a chance.
I've never seen Max carry over a grudge into the next race. It looks like he took the summer break "You never had a decent teammate" and "You are a bunch of cheaters" because of TD-18 to heart and channeled his inner Ivan Drago, "I must break you".
Now, I'll take a breath. I like Max, but I am at a point where anyone "NOT HAM" wins or finishes in front of "HAM" gets a thumbs up by me. Where some people "Hate Watch" TV shows, I am now "Hate Watching" F1.
I guess I failed at what I said in the 1st paragraph.
Ha. Glad you broke your word. Entertaining and I know I am not alone and don’t need to type it.
But I am ever hopeful the HAAS team will eventually get to mediocrity. But glad they are in the race.
Someone has to be last. The current iteration of Williams, is at the tail end a lot and it's fine, because they are trying. Going through the motions though is not.
I wish there was a clause that teams HAD TO FINISH at least 7th once in a five year period or they would not be allowed to race. Which would mean selling the team to someone who wanted to try. If you can't do that once in 5 years, it's on purpose. What has happened to Haas is amazing. I don't think there's ever been a team that started out mid pack and then got progressively worse. It looks intentional. Last year Steiner sounded as if the MoneyGram money was going to be their ticket up. Then they design a car that burns the tires off in a lap or 2. "But Hulk Qs better than KMAG!!!!!" They don't give points out in Q.
Yes that is what has me confused. On a great trajectory and then just like they go on life support. Gene is not like that in any of his pursuits. Like Penske and others he prefers to be out front but Formula 1 may be a harder nut to crack or it’s intentional with funding. I don’t have any answers. Other than I am still cheering for the home team.
I had the privilege of meeting Gene and Gunther when the team was being formed, and talking to them about it. The impression I got at the time was that Haas F1 was little more than an extended advertisement for high-end motorsports and aerospace adoption of their machine tools.
I am sure his equipment is used by all the teams in addition to other industries and has the business case for investing, but he doesn’t seem like the type to half ass anything. But it may be a case of having too much to concentrate on. Hard to excel when you expand too much.
Maybe he needs to partner with Mario Andretti and the family. I still hope for better results. Was hopeful that Schumacher would have thrived there. Will see if Mick has the family talent.
half ass
ha__ as_
haas
guys I think I'm on to something here
That is still the case.
But Gene has lucked into a valuable asset given the cost cap.
if ham were a libertarian/conservative i'd root for him every time, especially the wacko getups
Someone asked Horner if Liam should go to Williams. He said, cryptically, "I don't think they would want him for just a year." Which SHOULD mean that Liam is going to Red Bull, but also COULD mean that they are going to put Danny Ric in the RB20 to play jester for Max while Liam seasons in the AlphaTauri. That seems like a dangerous game to me unless they know for a fact that next year's RedBull will be strong enough for Max to win constructors by himself AGAIN.
Agreed.
RBR has five F1 level drivers at the moment for four seats.
Perez is so done after next year - and he may not even finish the year at RBR if he starts it.
He will want to retire.
Say what you will, but RB has treated their failures very well because of the B team and rarely does there seem to be hard feelings. Daniil "The Torpedo" Kvyat being the main exception. Most of the time when you are out, you become a non-person.
Anyone though doing business with them needs to have their eyes wide open. "It's not Fair" is a goofy take when it comes to them. That's how they operate.
Max could have gotten the exact same treatment. Finishes 12th for Toro Rosso. Mid pack the next year. 5th race gets called up and wins.
I haven’t said anything negative about RBR!
I believe they are the greatest racing team on the planet.
At the moment they have a 5 into 4 scenario, but that will be resolved when Checo is gone. He may decide to retire “gracefully” after 2024; he may not get his contract renewed; he may be moved aside mid-2024 in favor of Ricciardo/Tsunoda/Lawson.
I think MGTOW is a pretty daring position to take. Most of the stuff I do is only because I want to be a good father and husband. If I didn't care about finding a woman or making sure my bloodline didn't die out, what's the point? Why would I bother?
As someone who has more than tripled his income after becoming a father, you wouldn't bother. Something women do not seem to understand it most men don't work cause they enjoy it. Job aren't fulfilling. Working mostly sucks.
I know this: The most average man will go to the ends of the Earth and overcome any hardship if he has a good reason.
I'm honestly shocked there isn't more murderous rampage and elliot rodgers out there. Go kill 20 people and chicks will write you love letters in prison. Hell, you might even be able to get married and get conjugal visits*
*Everything I've learned about conjugal visits I've learned from TV. I hope this isn't true.
Of course it's true. Manson got married in prison. I think even Dahmer got love letters from women and he's gay.
The sex part. Do they let them have sex?
Not in ohio they dont.
Only with the guards.
My friend was locked up in Kansas for 3 years. Being a relatively sharp fellow he was on work release in an IT gig. The company owner was happy to have him for Pennie’s on the dollar and he was able to maintain a relationship throughout that later led to marriage.
Was
It's like school shooters. They're the ones who pulled the trigger, but they were driven to it. Society bears SOME blame and frankly, any one of us would be the gunman if pushed far enough, or in the right direction.
I'm not going to say what I really think cause I don't need the FEDS knocking on my door, but, yeah.
You post on this Substack. You're already on The List.
Might as well.
Let em' knock. Long as they fall INTO the house who gives a shit.
Everyone should be shot. Fixes everything.
If I didn't have a wife and kids there is NO WAY I would have stuck it out at my old job as long as I did. But they needed me to. I'm a much better father/husband now that I have a decent job with very little work-related stress.
And if your wife cheated, she'd blame you for working so hard for the family that you neglected them.
I'm accidentally a "passport bro" so she's a loyal Japanese lady who would never do that to me. In fact, I work a lot less than any Japanese husband would back in her home country.
Well, you haven't died at your desk, so by Japanese standards you're a wretched shirkaday.
Isn't it always the man's fault? I mean I'm wasting digital ink stating what the entire universe knows.
Pre-divorce, my friend’s future ex-wife berated him for not making enough money. He then got a second job, and was told “You’re never home!”.
This used to be called "Manning Up" .
I did it too, once I was fully vested I kept that job even after my ex wife bailed .
I'm very glad I did as dead broke Blue Collar sucks in ways many can't imagine .
-Nate
Is that Bradley's podcast?
Who is Bradley?
I am a way happier human now that I'm retired. Well, until the money runs out.
It’s amazing what you will put up with at work when you have a family depending on you...
Reminds me of this scene from The Toy...
https://youtu.be/4C6o7vhcDIw?si=ZRkTff4yKNGMA5KS
Noted, will continue to improve my situation including AFTER fatherhood.
Canadian women are even worse than American women. Y'all are too nice.
The problem I find is that there are FAR too few of them.
I thought the only women up there were moose.
Only in the far north. Gotta keep warm somehow.
That's right.
And Red Bull wins the Constructor's Championship in Japan on Honda's 75th Anniversary. The Singapore performance was total horseshit.
Like they turned down the cars?
I find it hard to believe their performance fell off that much for only one race.
That said I fully admit to having been overtaken by a certain dementia when it comes to conspiracy theories. I blame Covid and the guy showing up sixty years later talking about the bullet he placed on the stretcher.
That guy is no hero for speaking up now. It never occurred to him for decades?
Mark Hughes (Motorsport Magazine F1 guru) explained that the Singapore street circuit is so rough that it necessitates a greater ride height than other tracks, and that Red Bull's aero advantage is largely through the interation of their floor and the track. They were unable to find a good setup with this year's car and the Singapore rough track. The Japan track is relatively smooth like the other circuits so performance was resumed. I'm just relating what I read, and have no dog in the hunt so please no crazed response aimed at me. :+)
If the average race track was Singapore bumpy they'd have designed the car for Singapore bumpy. The wailing and gnashing of teeth that RB is playing games is ridiculous.
The only way Japan for the WCC only works because of the wins up to this point. Nothing more, nothing less.
And with Honda only on board for 2 more years, it's not really like they have to kiss Honda's butt.
Mark Hughes is superb; he also writes for The-Race (more frequently).
Sitting in a waiting room Monday night I felt the subsonic floor rumble of a subway. There is no subterranean transport in metro Denver. It took me a few moments to realize it was caused by a very heavy woman crossing the room. No exaggeration, the water in the bottle perched on the armrest rippled just like in Jurrasic Park.
"I can feel it approaching"
Jesus my sides
The amazing thing is : many men like this sort of thing ~ an old guy I know used to send me pictures of bare ass nekkid 350 + pounders ~ GAH .
Can't unsee them .
-Nate
When I was a young guy, one of the older guys at work used to accrue the kind of smut magazines that the post office wouldn’t deliver. He left an issue of one called “Plumpers” in a truck one day. Traumatized three or four of us 20 something’s.
That was a great magazine, i mean... NEVER HEARD OF IT
i wish i'd bought a truly exceptional perfect-bound magazine in the milano airport 45 years ago; i didn't because then i wouldn't've had enough lira for an espresso and a croissant. it was a cross between hustler and the robb report. i looked for another issue when i got back a year later but it must've been a one-off. never seen anything remotely like it.
Sir, this sounds like a business opportunity. We use my talent, your name, and someone else's money. We can call it
COCKTANE
I took a bare bones trip to Europe in 1985 along with two friends. No planning, just got a flight to Brussels and rented a car.
We spent a couple of days in Paris, during which my buddy bought a magazine that sounds exactly like what you’re describing.
We then headed for Switzerland, arriving at the border after dark and in a snowstorm. The checkpoint was closed for the night.
Having nowhere to go, we slept in the car, three guys in a Ford Escort. We only had enough gas to run the engine for heat a few minutes every hour.
I awoke in the morning to a tapping on the window. It was a Swiss border guard tapping the butt of his submachine gun on the window. He was pointing at the back seat.
There lay my friend with the magazine open to some lurid display; next to him a half empty bottle of wine with the cork floating in it.
I’m surprised they let us in.
The SCP Foundation calls that sort of thing a cognitohazard.
Had a competition with a close friend in my late 20s (back when high speed internet was a rare thing) where we would compile the most bizarre and offensive (but still legal) things we could find on the internet and save for the other. There was some odd stuff out there even then.
Jesus, *her* sides.
Imagine the smell.
I'd rather not.
although smelling in that context isn't consensual
Too damn funny
The 1st sentence is Very "film noir"ish.
Wow I do live under a rock and had no idea any of this was going on. Older and happily married I think I should have been a little more astute to what my son may be going through. A lot to unpack and consider. Now I have homework to do.
NPNW.
Brilliant. Brief, to the point, cutting to the bone.
Of course they fear it. They should, and will start a war to cull them like what they do to male baby chicks at the factory farms.
The MGTOW thing is only baffling to people who are threatened by it. I have friends who would be classified as incels. Some decided to “own it” and claim to be happier just doing their own thing. They’ve resigned themselves to the fact that they may die alone and therefore will keep living life as they see fit. For some, that means pursuing personal wealth and hobbies. For others, it’s video games and playing guitar. Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?
The last six months of my second college attempt, I went into “monk mode” and completely shut out all non-essential activities until I secured an internship over spring break. When you are laser-focused upon yourself, the lack of relationship doesn’t matter.
I understand how someone who has NEVER felt the touch of a woman can be comfortable with the MGTOW lifestyle. On one hand, they don’t really know what they’re missing. On the other, they’ve resigned themselves that they will never truly know.
To put it in car guy terms: I know that I want a McLaren F1, but I’ve never driven one and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Why let it keep me up at night?
Well think about it this way: I have driven the 'McLaren F1' of women. Was it worth it?
No.
The maintenance was way too high.
The 'F1' is always about the 'F1' and so are you if you want to keep it 'running' there is no room for YOU in that life. And it costs. It costs lots.
Sanity is very much a part of the price.
Maybe in the 50's the F1 was a fun thing to have and would be faithful and loving.
But not anymore, and not in a long time.
I’m pretty sure I drove the same model
I'm pretty sure most men did, why I stopped going there .
-Nate
We all did...
Yes John but those F1 memories......
SIGH .
-Nate
Reminds me of that fake Aston Martin ad, “You know you’re not the first but...”.
I didn't know there was an Aston Martin version of that ad. I've seen the BMW version, which was allegedly a concept developed by a Greek ad agency and then leaked. Greek is relevant because their age of consent is 15, and the girl pictured looks younger than 18. Sounds like BMW never used it.
Hopefully I'm not parroting an online myth. Hard to find reputable sources for this.
Related to other comments here, the Aston Martin logo looks like a tramp stamp.
I've seen the ad. Both online and in mainstream glossy print media (I think). For certified pre-owned BMW.
And yes, I did feel sort of icky after looking at the ad.
They actually used it!?!?
Honestly? The sex wasn't that great and again, everything is about the F1 and not you.
I remember the frustrations and the (in one case) lack of fidelity.
If you're going to go for the F1 - get a foreign model and keep them away from American Women.
Having dated a long line of high-maintenance women, I don't disagree with any of the above. I also don't regret any of it.
What you gotta do is get yourself a nice FC RX-7, a drop top so it's easy to get topless. There's a little maintenance involved, but that little bit of love goes a long way.
We are talking about cars, right?
They will both do a great job of attracting other dudes as well.
"Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?"
Herein lies the problem writ large
You’re correct. Like much anything else these days, the hypocrisy is the flex.
Sexualizing kids?
All good.
Guy who wants to drop out of the sexual market? Dangerous to our democracy.
Single mom on welfare selling pictures on OF? Independent woman.
Basement-dwelling NEET who streams vidya?
Incel scum.
I'm a live and let live type of guy but the problem is those other people will not leave us alone. "You do your thing and I'll do mine" turned into "I'm gonna teach your five year old that anal sex is fun"
In the UK a woman went into a store. She was offered a Pride bag for free. "Nah, I'm good". The cops found her and told her that could be considered a hate crime. The store said she was no longer allowed to shop there.
Of course I learned that from Paul Joseph Watson. Who worked for Alex Jones.
That sounds like "and everybody clapped" but it is England so not completely unbelievable. How the mighty have fallen.
Forcing someone to express something they don't agree with is worse than censoring them.
I think MGTOW and Incels are two different things.
MGTOW is about accepting you aren't getting the dates you want with the people you want and finding a way to live your life the best way you can without them. It's owning and taking responsibility for the celibacy.
Incels are involuntarily celibate. They don't take ownership of it, they blame others for denying them. That blame can, especially when they get into some online echo chamber, metastasize into violence. That is why DHS is involved.
As a clueless guy who couldn't get the women I wanted, I stopped and took a good long look in the mirror and thought about where I was falling short. In my case, it was mostly a fear of putting myself out there. Once I realized you had to risk rejection and ask for dates, I started doing it. Both the MGTOW and the incels could do this, too, but they'd have to adjust their standards and nether group is willing to do that.
I will admit that I find it annoying at times that EVERYTHING in our culture is now about women and fuck all men. Look at how 'Diverting Hate' is all about protecting woman from 'Misogyny' when Misandry is far more prevalent and a keystone of our current society. Everything about our society is about putting down and destroying men.
Look at that whole recent 'do you think of Rome' bit. In it men are talking about how they care about current events, international events, and how they're worried about that affecting their families and their wives/girlfriends. Meanwhile said wives and girlfriends are all laughing at them and totally missing the point, because men are stupid and dumb and they should be more concerned with watching Real Housewives, because that addresses REAL AND IMPORTANT issues.
Ever wonder why women live longer than men nowadays? It's not biology! All things being equal we used to live the same. But now Healthcare and society itself is focused on taking care of women while grinding men into the dirt. THAT's why women live longer - and lets not even get started in on suicide which women hardly ever do but men are doing in record numbers.
It's funny how a woman wrote the article about men, and about how we're all 'raging' and the subtext is clear - she doesn't really give a shit about men, she's just worried that 'they're not under control' and that they 'don't act like women'. All of the 'solutions' they propose are very much about making men like women. I mean look at the examples of 'male rage' she had to go back NINE years to find one?
Oh truly it is an epidemic!
The truth is, it's men that do all the work and all the hard jobs. It's men that build and maintain society. And now that men are finally starting to say 'fuck it, you don't value me, I'm done' that women are starting to become afraid. Why do you think they're importing all of those military aged young men?
They're doing it to replace their brothers and boyfriends who have grown tired of their shit. And wow are they going to be unhappy when they find out that third world 'achmed' believes his b***h should be on her knees and do as he says or he'll blacken her other eye, takes over.
Yup, welcome to the collapse.
Why do men die before their wives? They want to
As Bill Handel says : just kill her : you get to keep all the money and property and with good behavior you'll be out in seven years .
-Nate
You sound bitter John .
-Nate
Nope, just annoyed. Married going on 30 years. But oh some of the shit I've got sucked in to having to deal with.
Hillary Clinton said that the major victims of war are women and children.
The WSJ article is just the latest in a series by women about what's wrong with men. Maybe men aren't the problem and it's the feminized system that's messed up.
I wouldn't be unhappy if she caught a brick with her face, hypothetically speaking.
The “Manoshere” still exists? I thought everybody involved in that got canceled, disappeared so they wouldn’t get canceled, or redirected their grift to a wider audience.
Besides, it all lost any value when the tone of those that remained shifted from sharing advice to better understand, get, and keep women, to celibate religious cultism. Guys who worship the elusive “tradwife” but are still too broken to land any woman.
MGTOW is an inherently self-defeating movement, just like the Shakers or anyone else who chose to remove themselves from the evils of society. It’s laughable that the feds would throw pocket change at trying to defeat it unless they’re more clever than I give them credit for and are using reverse psychology.
The manosphere has been dead for awhile. The normal guys got married and had children and the remaining guys are all grifters
It always existed. It just never had a name. I doubt anyone has been turned by it. It's more of a "Hey, that makes sense" idea. It's ultimately indifference. No one is trying to change anyone. There's no secret decoder rings nor a secret handshake. It is ultimately a group of one and that is you.
It's "I do my thing. You do yours." If someone succeeds that way, who's to say they can't do that? If they don't? Oh well.
In some cases, it's nothing more that trust but verify. Don't assume that all women are sugar and spice and everything nice. Treat them as adults and equals, and if they come up short, dump them. For others, it's living in the mountains wearing animal pelts.
Now, the grifters that a different thing entirely. No one has the "Secret" because there isn't any.
I found that article to be a disappointment. When I started reading it, I thought there was a chance they would bring up the war on men, etc., but it was all sanctimony and quite patronizing.
An article about the plights of men? In a modern rag like the Wall Street Journal?
Silly you for having hope that these people care about men!
yeah I find it irritating too man
To elaborate on Speed's point, it is not just limited to men. Brexit, Trump, whatever, it's never "does this movement have any legitimate grievances," but HOW DARE THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE DO THIS.
Unless, "these people" are military age "migrants" or pedophiles.