True, but neither do their "Sex And The City" female counterparts, yet the downtown of every city in North America has been revamped to make them happy.
and had to pay a bakery $36 million dollars when the whole college tried to bully them out of business for the crime of having an employee attacked by three black shoplifters:
Yes that is what has me confused. On a great trajectory and then just like they go on life support. Gene is not like that in any of his pursuits. Like Penske and others he prefers to be out front but Formula 1 may be a harder nut to crack or it’s intentional with funding. I don’t have any answers. Other than I am still cheering for the home team.
I had the privilege of meeting Gene and Gunther when the team was being formed, and talking to them about it. The impression I got at the time was that Haas F1 was little more than an extended advertisement for high-end motorsports and aerospace adoption of their machine tools.
I am sure his equipment is used by all the teams in addition to other industries and has the business case for investing, but he doesn’t seem like the type to half ass anything. But it may be a case of having too much to concentrate on. Hard to excel when you expand too much.
Maybe he needs to partner with Mario Andretti and the family. I still hope for better results. Was hopeful that Schumacher would have thrived there. Will see if Mick has the family talent.
Someone asked Horner if Liam should go to Williams. He said, cryptically, "I don't think they would want him for just a year." Which SHOULD mean that Liam is going to Red Bull, but also COULD mean that they are going to put Danny Ric in the RB20 to play jester for Max while Liam seasons in the AlphaTauri. That seems like a dangerous game to me unless they know for a fact that next year's RedBull will be strong enough for Max to win constructors by himself AGAIN.
I believe they are the greatest racing team on the planet.
At the moment they have a 5 into 4 scenario, but that will be resolved when Checo is gone. He may decide to retire “gracefully” after 2024; he may not get his contract renewed; he may be moved aside mid-2024 in favor of Ricciardo/Tsunoda/Lawson.
In racing news, Jett Lawrence won the first-ever “Supermotocross World Championship” last Saturday at the LA Coliseum. The three-race series was a playoff of sorts combining the Supercross and Motocross seasons.
Jett is arguably weaker in SX and this showed during the SMX races. I’m eagerly awaiting the return of Tomac, a healthy Webb, etc. to see some real pressure out on Jett (outside of Ken Roczen).
Haiden Deegan took the 250 championship. Not a huge fan of that family (especially his dad and sister), but the kid sure can ride.
hey Jack, can you post a decoder table for those of us that don't pay that much attention to F1 and can't figure out half of what you are referring to (and are too lazy to go google it)? thanks.
nickname, driver name, team
And re your other topic - "Irritable Female Syndrome" oh my, let the "discussion" begin ....
Wanna have some fun? Explain “Resting Bitch Face” to a woman who has never heard of it.
I’ve done this with some cool women, and they howled with laughter because they know it’s true and can come up with examples of women who do it right away.
I had a long-term relationship with an otherwise out-of-my-league girl (a 7/8 scale clone of Gene Tierney) who had RBF. It scared off an amazing number of guys.
When I was doing desktop IT support and working in people's offices, I could always tell when they were talking to a lover or a spouse on the phone because their voice would soften.
Maybe men wouldn't feel the need to go their own way if the world hadn't made them into Untouchables.
Take away a man's possibilities for a good-paying job, an affordable home & lifestyle, a faithful & attractive wife, functional children, the respect of his fellow men and his necessity to society, and then tell him he's selfish & immature for resenting this all happening to him and frankly, you should thank God that men's blogs are the sole current manifestation of the resistance to this state of affairs.
I have a bunch of DBT albums but I've soured on Jason Isbell. What is it with southern musicians who feel like they have to be politically left of center? I guess it's like how formerly religious people are like catnip to the publishing industry. Write a book about the terrors of being an Evangelical wife and you'll probably get a contract. And no, Steve Earle isn't as good of a songwriter as Bob Dylan is.
I do not listen to any of Isbell's stuff since he left DbT. Whiney sack of shit. Steve Earle lost his muse when he went clean. Just another whiney bitch now. Shoulda stayed on the horse and died the good death of a misunderstood junkie.
More than one native village has been wiped off the map by an angry volcano god because according to the sacrificial virgin, "Yeah, but he doesn't count."
The tats I could do without but I would tolerate them; it's the facial piercings I can't stand. Nothing says you're comfortable with who you are quite like punching holes in your face and leaving metal in there where skin used to be.
EDIT: Mrs MD has no tats or piercings, but she does want to dye her hair gold.
Shame and mockery is said to work best. 'Wow she looks like a whore with all those tats.'
There is a possibly fictional account of a dad who started dressing in drag when dropping his 'trans curious' daughter off at school. That nipped it in the bud.
I have tattoos and so does my wife. If you don't want your kids to get tattoos, the easiest way is to get one for yourself. In an instant, the idea of getting a tattoo becomes lame and uncool to any teenager. You'll want to point it out to other parents once or twice a year to re-enforce it periodically.
Two of my four have tattoos. One daughter and one son. I think there is a generational perception. I don’t see THE tattoo, only A tattoo, which to me means trash. They see it as expressive body art and see the tattoo.
as a founder of the lbgp i aaaaalmost got a tattoo of my special pass put on my upper left arm--there was a parlor right over there...i'm glad i didn't.
It’s the ring through the septum that makes me look away. It instantly reminds me of a farm animal, and wouldn’t you know, some of those girls do approximate the weight of certain 4-legged farm dwellers.
I'm primarily thinking of the young women that seem to be waging a public war using their faces as the battlefield. I have several very happy, significantly tattooed employees, so it's not a blanket statement.
This is the thing I find most troubling. Men and women don't even try to look good any more. I don't know how the men's dress clothing industry is surviving. Stretch fabrics have been a curse on civilization.
I'm VERY guilty in this regard, and generally am smirking reading Jack's opinions on dressing himself, Kiton jackets and how much he spends on clothing.
HOWEVER, I have started making moves at reforming myself, although I never see myself getting to the same expense levels as Jack ever.
I think buying quality clothes can be economical. Three pair of quality shoes can last you a couple of decades. You can spend your money in your home country, keep a humble cobbler employed, and make most of your friends look poor and tasteless. Dressing well and looking confident can do wonders for the appeal of the so called unfuckables.
Hey, speaking of men's dress clothing: my son is 20 and in engineering school. Two weeks ago, we bought his first suit that he will wear to interview for internships. He chose a light gray single-breasted suit that looks great, though I advised him to go with navy or charcoal gray because a few old-school guys think a light-colored suit is "unprofessional."
Then the Senate shit-canned their dress code to accommodate a mentally-deficient oaf.
Guess I'm wrong, and a light-gray suit is fine for job interviews. Hell, maybe a polo and Dockers are fine. Maybe a T-shirt and Levi's are fine. Maybe a hoodie and bassaball shorts are fine.
In preparation for my court date when I got that second Misdemeanor Reckless Op earlier this year, I decided it was the perfect excuse to buy a proper suit. Got a nice charcoal grey Jos. A. Bank suit, white Bank shirt, a couple of Bank ties, new shoes, even socks and a belt. Spent almost a thousand bucks on that outfit, all told.
I was the best-dressed person in that courtroom. You could practically hear "Sharp Dressed Man" playing when I walked in with my lawyer.
I totally get why some men insist on wearing a suit every day.
There's gotta be something said about cheap suits (I'm not talking about your getup, I swear) because for a few hundred bucks (or less!) you can totally be the best dressed dude in any room.
That is literally and factually untrue. I have never met a woman in person, whether I was pursuing them or not, who demanded any of those things from a partner lmao. Where do you get this stuff?
I think MGTOW is a pretty daring position to take. Most of the stuff I do is only because I want to be a good father and husband. If I didn't care about finding a woman or making sure my bloodline didn't die out, what's the point? Why would I bother?
My friend was locked up in Kansas for 3 years. Being a relatively sharp fellow he was on work release in an IT gig. The company owner was happy to have him for Pennie’s on the dollar and he was able to maintain a relationship throughout that later led to marriage.
It's like school shooters. They're the ones who pulled the trigger, but they were driven to it. Society bears SOME blame and frankly, any one of us would be the gunman if pushed far enough, or in the right direction.
If I didn't have a wife and kids there is NO WAY I would have stuck it out at my old job as long as I did. But they needed me to. I'm a much better father/husband now that I have a decent job with very little work-related stress.
I'm accidentally a "passport bro" so she's a loyal Japanese lady who would never do that to me. In fact, I work a lot less than any Japanese husband would back in her home country.
I find it hard to believe their performance fell off that much for only one race.
That said I fully admit to having been overtaken by a certain dementia when it comes to conspiracy theories. I blame Covid and the guy showing up sixty years later talking about the bullet he placed on the stretcher.
Mark Hughes (Motorsport Magazine F1 guru) explained that the Singapore street circuit is so rough that it necessitates a greater ride height than other tracks, and that Red Bull's aero advantage is largely through the interation of their floor and the track. They were unable to find a good setup with this year's car and the Singapore rough track. The Japan track is relatively smooth like the other circuits so performance was resumed. I'm just relating what I read, and have no dog in the hunt so please no crazed response aimed at me. :+)
Sitting in a waiting room Monday night I felt the subsonic floor rumble of a subway. There is no subterranean transport in metro Denver. It took me a few moments to realize it was caused by a very heavy woman crossing the room. No exaggeration, the water in the bottle perched on the armrest rippled just like in Jurrasic Park.
When I was a young guy, one of the older guys at work used to accrue the kind of smut magazines that the post office wouldn’t deliver. He left an issue of one called “Plumpers” in a truck one day. Traumatized three or four of us 20 something’s.
i wish i'd bought a truly exceptional perfect-bound magazine in the milano airport 45 years ago; i didn't because then i wouldn't've had enough lira for an espresso and a croissant. it was a cross between hustler and the robb report. i looked for another issue when i got back a year later but it must've been a one-off. never seen anything remotely like it.
I took a bare bones trip to Europe in 1985 along with two friends. No planning, just got a flight to Brussels and rented a car.
We spent a couple of days in Paris, during which my buddy bought a magazine that sounds exactly like what you’re describing.
We then headed for Switzerland, arriving at the border after dark and in a snowstorm. The checkpoint was closed for the night.
Having nowhere to go, we slept in the car, three guys in a Ford Escort. We only had enough gas to run the engine for heat a few minutes every hour.
I awoke in the morning to a tapping on the window. It was a Swiss border guard tapping the butt of his submachine gun on the window. He was pointing at the back seat.
There lay my friend with the magazine open to some lurid display; next to him a half empty bottle of wine with the cork floating in it.
Had a competition with a close friend in my late 20s (back when high speed internet was a rare thing) where we would compile the most bizarre and offensive (but still legal) things we could find on the internet and save for the other. There was some odd stuff out there even then.
Wow I do live under a rock and had no idea any of this was going on. Older and happily married I think I should have been a little more astute to what my son may be going through. A lot to unpack and consider. Now I have homework to do.
The MGTOW thing is only baffling to people who are threatened by it. I have friends who would be classified as incels. Some decided to “own it” and claim to be happier just doing their own thing. They’ve resigned themselves to the fact that they may die alone and therefore will keep living life as they see fit. For some, that means pursuing personal wealth and hobbies. For others, it’s video games and playing guitar. Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?
The last six months of my second college attempt, I went into “monk mode” and completely shut out all non-essential activities until I secured an internship over spring break. When you are laser-focused upon yourself, the lack of relationship doesn’t matter.
I understand how someone who has NEVER felt the touch of a woman can be comfortable with the MGTOW lifestyle. On one hand, they don’t really know what they’re missing. On the other, they’ve resigned themselves that they will never truly know.
To put it in car guy terms: I know that I want a McLaren F1, but I’ve never driven one and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Why let it keep me up at night?
I didn't know there was an Aston Martin version of that ad. I've seen the BMW version, which was allegedly a concept developed by a Greek ad agency and then leaked. Greek is relevant because their age of consent is 15, and the girl pictured looks younger than 18. Sounds like BMW never used it.
Hopefully I'm not parroting an online myth. Hard to find reputable sources for this.
Related to other comments here, the Aston Martin logo looks like a tramp stamp.
What you gotta do is get yourself a nice FC RX-7, a drop top so it's easy to get topless. There's a little maintenance involved, but that little bit of love goes a long way.
I think MGTOW and Incels are two different things.
MGTOW is about accepting you aren't getting the dates you want with the people you want and finding a way to live your life the best way you can without them. It's owning and taking responsibility for the celibacy.
Incels are involuntarily celibate. They don't take ownership of it, they blame others for denying them. That blame can, especially when they get into some online echo chamber, metastasize into violence. That is why DHS is involved.
As a clueless guy who couldn't get the women I wanted, I stopped and took a good long look in the mirror and thought about where I was falling short. In my case, it was mostly a fear of putting myself out there. Once I realized you had to risk rejection and ask for dates, I started doing it. Both the MGTOW and the incels could do this, too, but they'd have to adjust their standards and nether group is willing to do that.
I will admit that I find it annoying at times that EVERYTHING in our culture is now about women and fuck all men. Look at how 'Diverting Hate' is all about protecting woman from 'Misogyny' when Misandry is far more prevalent and a keystone of our current society. Everything about our society is about putting down and destroying men.
Look at that whole recent 'do you think of Rome' bit. In it men are talking about how they care about current events, international events, and how they're worried about that affecting their families and their wives/girlfriends. Meanwhile said wives and girlfriends are all laughing at them and totally missing the point, because men are stupid and dumb and they should be more concerned with watching Real Housewives, because that addresses REAL AND IMPORTANT issues.
Ever wonder why women live longer than men nowadays? It's not biology! All things being equal we used to live the same. But now Healthcare and society itself is focused on taking care of women while grinding men into the dirt. THAT's why women live longer - and lets not even get started in on suicide which women hardly ever do but men are doing in record numbers.
It's funny how a woman wrote the article about men, and about how we're all 'raging' and the subtext is clear - she doesn't really give a shit about men, she's just worried that 'they're not under control' and that they 'don't act like women'. All of the 'solutions' they propose are very much about making men like women. I mean look at the examples of 'male rage' she had to go back NINE years to find one?
Oh truly it is an epidemic!
The truth is, it's men that do all the work and all the hard jobs. It's men that build and maintain society. And now that men are finally starting to say 'fuck it, you don't value me, I'm done' that women are starting to become afraid. Why do you think they're importing all of those military aged young men?
They're doing it to replace their brothers and boyfriends who have grown tired of their shit. And wow are they going to be unhappy when they find out that third world 'achmed' believes his b***h should be on her knees and do as he says or he'll blacken her other eye, takes over.
Hillary Clinton said that the major victims of war are women and children.
The WSJ article is just the latest in a series by women about what's wrong with men. Maybe men aren't the problem and it's the feminized system that's messed up.
I found that article to be a disappointment. When I started reading it, I thought there was a chance they would bring up the war on men, etc., but it was all sanctimony and quite patronizing.
To elaborate on Speed's point, it is not just limited to men. Brexit, Trump, whatever, it's never "does this movement have any legitimate grievances," but HOW DARE THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE DO THIS.
Unless, "these people" are military age "migrants" or pedophiles.
I have a good friend here in town who is about 35 and recently divorced. He's at that age where the list of disqualifying features in a mate in fairly long, and he lives in central Kansas. You kind of need to be "in to" fat dumb redneck chicks to date here. He would rather drink bleach.
It's fair to say that dating has been a disaster, and MGTOW might look pretty appealing.
He has three options: move, lower his expectations, or check out of the dating scene altogether.
I have a friend in Houston. He's a geologist at one of the Supermajors and has been for a decade. Educated, was pretty fit pre-COVID, and financially secure. Despite this, he is completely dateless. Why? Because he wants a Conservative Christian woman who ideally is Indian or Middle Eastern. The kicker? They also need to be comfortable with his desire to be childfree.
My cousin had ovarian cancer in her early 20's - completely out of left field. A lot of men would no longer date her because she couldn't have children. Eventually she found a guy (good one too plus rich) who didn't want kids and has been happily married for many decades now.
In his eyes, the world is too “messed up” to bring kids into it. I told him that if he feels that way, it’s probably better that he not become a father.
I told him EXACTLY that. If anything, he is the type of person who should be spitting out children. As we got older, most of my friend group realized that the only way we are going to be able to reverse the tide is to reproduce like our forefathers did.
Not to pull the "blame teh boomerz" card, but childrearing fell of a cliff with their generation. Current numbers are artificially high due to the number of large families we are importing here.
For example, my great grandparents had 4 boys and 4 girls. Those 8 people each had no more than 2 kids. My grandparents had both my mother and my uncle. My parents had me and my sister. My uncle never had children.
The tide is slowly turning with our generation, but it is going to take a lot of work to get things back to where they should be. I truly believe a lot of the "fear porn" (looming economic crisis, climate change, etc.) is meant to dissuade Middle America from having children.
From an American perspective, when the Feds stopped handing out so much land because the frontier was settled and when people moved off of farms and into cities, it made sense for the population to stabilize.
We did, and then we're being POPULATION BOMBED and now the choice is to bring children into a world of $70k jobs and $500k starter homes where they will be a despised minority.
You should still do it, but it was not wrong for people to adapt and start having 2-3 children rather than 5-10. It WAS wrong for the politicians to encourage POPULATION BOMBING.
He has done an excellent job of reducing the sample size to zero! I suppose there may be one or two in the center of the venn diagram. May as well buy lottery tickets too.
Does move work? Or does it just extend the agony? It doesn't take long fish the whole pond here. In a metro, it could take a lifetime but not change the outcome
I think that it is admirable that he’s sticking to his expectations, but I think he’s looking for a nonexistent woman. Definitely should reassess what are need to haves and nice to haves.
I’ve had to do the same. Think he’s going to find out he’s been missing out on meeting some fantastic women
Agreed. I didn’t have children until my mid-thirties. Now I have four plus three grandchildren. It is the greatest thing I have ever done. The best thing about waiting though is my wife and I were financially secure when we had them so we didn’t have that strain on top of raising those yahoos. The downside was I was 60 when my youngest graduated high school. I was the old dad her whole school life.
I have just two because I made a rule for myself that I couldn't be 60 when one graduated high school. I just barely made it with my younger son - I'll be 59 1/2.
I was a bit older when I had my first. Do not recommend. People not named Tom Brady break down in their 40s. If you are lucky enough to still have your parents, they won't exactly be in their prime if you wait that long. Now not only do you get limited babysitting, but you are doubled up with toddler care and elder care. You probably have your own problems too.
I at least look young , so I might not be the obvious old dad.
That was a big one for me in my 20s and when I got back into the dating pool in my mid-30s post divorce. Glad I softened my stance... would’ve really missed out
After some reflection I need to add this. Marrying my wife was the single greatest thing I have ever done. She made everything good in my life possible through her partnership with me. She makes me strive to be better every day. I feel so fortunate when I listen to friends and acquaintances talk about their wives.
Thank you thank you thank you, that’s so nice to read.
We’ve been married thirty years and I can honestly say that she is the sole reason we are where we are today. Without her I’d be dead or in a ditch somewhere...
True, but neither do their "Sex And The City" female counterparts, yet the downtown of every city in North America has been revamped to make them happy.
The women have it worse, in my view. As a rough rule of thumb:
Those women have an inherent “value” - youth, beauty, fertility - that declines over time, and there’s not much they can do about it.
Men have to create their own value, but they can bounce back again and again.
So which would you rather be?
The one that gets paid just to exist.
I'd get bored.
I think those businesses are banking on simply importing the people instead.
They like their legals too!
Fewer.
Hey, if the New York Times can't remember the distinction, I won't make my commenters adhere to it!
" It may cut down on the Oberlin Colleges of the world."
From your lips to God's ears.
What's the joke?
Its a Jewish saying, expressing the hope that God will hear and make that happen.
Oh. What's the joke about Oberlin College? It just looks like a liberal arts school.
It's the quintessential dipshit basket-weaver school. They faked hate crimes:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/opinion/how-oberlin-college-manufactured-the-hate-crime-hoax-the-year/fbhpO5nUgCSNyrVeHqzC3J/
and had to pay a bakery $36 million dollars when the whole college tried to bully them out of business for the crime of having an employee attacked by three black shoplifters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson%27s_Bakery_v._Oberlin_College#:~:text=Oberlin%20College%20announced%20that%20it,entire%20payment%20in%20December%202022.
Thanks!
fuck those guys
Ha. Glad you broke your word. Entertaining and I know I am not alone and don’t need to type it.
But I am ever hopeful the HAAS team will eventually get to mediocrity. But glad they are in the race.
Yes that is what has me confused. On a great trajectory and then just like they go on life support. Gene is not like that in any of his pursuits. Like Penske and others he prefers to be out front but Formula 1 may be a harder nut to crack or it’s intentional with funding. I don’t have any answers. Other than I am still cheering for the home team.
I had the privilege of meeting Gene and Gunther when the team was being formed, and talking to them about it. The impression I got at the time was that Haas F1 was little more than an extended advertisement for high-end motorsports and aerospace adoption of their machine tools.
I am sure his equipment is used by all the teams in addition to other industries and has the business case for investing, but he doesn’t seem like the type to half ass anything. But it may be a case of having too much to concentrate on. Hard to excel when you expand too much.
Maybe he needs to partner with Mario Andretti and the family. I still hope for better results. Was hopeful that Schumacher would have thrived there. Will see if Mick has the family talent.
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guys I think I'm on to something here
That is still the case.
But Gene has lucked into a valuable asset given the cost cap.
if ham were a libertarian/conservative i'd root for him every time, especially the wacko getups
Someone asked Horner if Liam should go to Williams. He said, cryptically, "I don't think they would want him for just a year." Which SHOULD mean that Liam is going to Red Bull, but also COULD mean that they are going to put Danny Ric in the RB20 to play jester for Max while Liam seasons in the AlphaTauri. That seems like a dangerous game to me unless they know for a fact that next year's RedBull will be strong enough for Max to win constructors by himself AGAIN.
Agreed.
RBR has five F1 level drivers at the moment for four seats.
Perez is so done after next year - and he may not even finish the year at RBR if he starts it.
He will want to retire.
I haven’t said anything negative about RBR!
I believe they are the greatest racing team on the planet.
At the moment they have a 5 into 4 scenario, but that will be resolved when Checo is gone. He may decide to retire “gracefully” after 2024; he may not get his contract renewed; he may be moved aside mid-2024 in favor of Ricciardo/Tsunoda/Lawson.
I see it as "society is the flames, and the dog is what society EXPECTS from young men."
Sort of a boiling frog thing.
In racing news, Jett Lawrence won the first-ever “Supermotocross World Championship” last Saturday at the LA Coliseum. The three-race series was a playoff of sorts combining the Supercross and Motocross seasons.
Jett is arguably weaker in SX and this showed during the SMX races. I’m eagerly awaiting the return of Tomac, a healthy Webb, etc. to see some real pressure out on Jett (outside of Ken Roczen).
Haiden Deegan took the 250 championship. Not a huge fan of that family (especially his dad and sister), but the kid sure can ride.
hey Jack, can you post a decoder table for those of us that don't pay that much attention to F1 and can't figure out half of what you are referring to (and are too lazy to go google it)? thanks.
nickname, driver name, team
And re your other topic - "Irritable Female Syndrome" oh my, let the "discussion" begin ....
Wanna have some fun? Explain “Resting Bitch Face” to a woman who has never heard of it.
I’ve done this with some cool women, and they howled with laughter because they know it’s true and can come up with examples of women who do it right away.
My daughter has a non-trivial case. I sure do hope your wife is right!
Teach her how to punch throats and some judo throws, she’ll be more than fine.
Like, kinda-hot Taylor Swift RBF or pantsuited HR harridan Demi Moore RBF?
I had a long-term relationship with an otherwise out-of-my-league girl (a 7/8 scale clone of Gene Tierney) who had RBF. It scared off an amazing number of guys.
Did she soften when you approached her, or was it like the disco scene in "Scarface" but you pushed through anyway?
Her smile was 10/10 so the second I told her a joke, the day I asked her out, the RBF was defeated.
When I was doing desktop IT support and working in people's offices, I could always tell when they were talking to a lover or a spouse on the phone because their voice would soften.
Maybe men wouldn't feel the need to go their own way if the world hadn't made them into Untouchables.
Take away a man's possibilities for a good-paying job, an affordable home & lifestyle, a faithful & attractive wife, functional children, the respect of his fellow men and his necessity to society, and then tell him he's selfish & immature for resenting this all happening to him and frankly, you should thank God that men's blogs are the sole current manifestation of the resistance to this state of affairs.
Drive by Truckers are the Truth. And real men.
I have a bunch of DBT albums but I've soured on Jason Isbell. What is it with southern musicians who feel like they have to be politically left of center? I guess it's like how formerly religious people are like catnip to the publishing industry. Write a book about the terrors of being an Evangelical wife and you'll probably get a contract. And no, Steve Earle isn't as good of a songwriter as Bob Dylan is.
I do not listen to any of Isbell's stuff since he left DbT. Whiney sack of shit. Steve Earle lost his muse when he went clean. Just another whiney bitch now. Shoulda stayed on the horse and died the good death of a misunderstood junkie.
Isn’t Isbell the douche nozzle that was running down George Jones? probably just to stunt on traditional country people.
Shonna Tucker excepted
Most American women are not unattractive - underneath the 60 extra pounds and the tats and the body count.
Where IS the line between "Sociable" and "Frat Mattress," anyway?
Spot on.
I think this is a function of knowing that every girl you meet has already slept with a few guys at the bare minimum. Probably a lot more in college.
More than one native village has been wiped off the map by an angry volcano god because according to the sacrificial virgin, "Yeah, but he doesn't count."
TOSS IN ANOTHER ONE
The corollate to that joke is 'anal doesn't count'.
I love Joe vs The Volcano.
The tats I could do without but I would tolerate them; it's the facial piercings I can't stand. Nothing says you're comfortable with who you are quite like punching holes in your face and leaving metal in there where skin used to be.
EDIT: Mrs MD has no tats or piercings, but she does want to dye her hair gold.
"Okay, we'll just remove them by force then"
Shame and mockery is said to work best. 'Wow she looks like a whore with all those tats.'
There is a possibly fictional account of a dad who started dressing in drag when dropping his 'trans curious' daughter off at school. That nipped it in the bud.
There's a reason female tats are called 'tramp stamps' .
-Nate
I don't care if fake-trans-dad is a fake story or not, I love it too much not to believe.
"The winner will be showered with praise! The loser will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore!"
Leviticus 19:28
To be fair, if you're Christian, Jesus broke that old covenant so we can feel free to disregard Leviticus et al.
You think the Nazi's choice to use tattoos to put Holerith numbers (so IBM card readers could help keep track) on Jews' arms was coincidental?
By the way, the reference to cutting probably has to do with scarification, rather than neurotic teenage girls.
Did you look up the verse while taking a bite of some nice, juicy jumbo shrimp?
I have tattoos and so does my wife. If you don't want your kids to get tattoos, the easiest way is to get one for yourself. In an instant, the idea of getting a tattoo becomes lame and uncool to any teenager. You'll want to point it out to other parents once or twice a year to re-enforce it periodically.
Two of my four have tattoos. One daughter and one son. I think there is a generational perception. I don’t see THE tattoo, only A tattoo, which to me means trash. They see it as expressive body art and see the tattoo.
Both my brothers and my sister all have tats and I don't hold it against them. I just don't see the appeal myself.
as a founder of the lbgp i aaaaalmost got a tattoo of my special pass put on my upper left arm--there was a parlor right over there...i'm glad i didn't.
Tattoos were cool when the wearers of them were guys that battled up Suribachi or fought Kamikaze off Okinawa.
Now they drink kombucha and eat sushi. (I like sushi but I'm not getting tats of it)
I've watched anime my whole life. I have no problem with green hair.
As long as it's natural.
You mean as long as the carpet matches the drapes.
Oh wait, no carpet...
Bare matches with everything!
Septum piercings look bad on literally everyone, no exceptions.
Biggest rebel now is the dude who acts and carries himself like a man of the '50s.
Nothing says "daddy issues" like a septum piercing.
It’s the ring through the septum that makes me look away. It instantly reminds me of a farm animal, and wouldn’t you know, some of those girls do approximate the weight of certain 4-legged farm dwellers.
If the shoe (bull ring?) fits...
I can’t stand Will Buxton
Does anybody enjoy his work, i wonder.
No. The ones that seem to are related to the money.
I have nightmares of Beth Mowins providing F1 commentary.
Tattoos and face piercings are an expression of anger and misery.
And gang membership.
Based on photos of criminals I’ve seen, I’ve always thought that anyone getting a neck tattoo should have to register with their State and the Feds.
If you have to register a gun, you should have to register a neck tattoo .
Register a GUN? Where do you live?
...and "Please don't hire me" tags....
As someone who is quite happy and very easygoing who also has a full sleeve on my left arm, I'd wholeheartedly disagree.
I'm primarily thinking of the young women that seem to be waging a public war using their faces as the battlefield. I have several very happy, significantly tattooed employees, so it's not a blanket statement.
"They're not even trying"
This is the thing I find most troubling. Men and women don't even try to look good any more. I don't know how the men's dress clothing industry is surviving. Stretch fabrics have been a curse on civilization.
I'm VERY guilty in this regard, and generally am smirking reading Jack's opinions on dressing himself, Kiton jackets and how much he spends on clothing.
HOWEVER, I have started making moves at reforming myself, although I never see myself getting to the same expense levels as Jack ever.
I think buying quality clothes can be economical. Three pair of quality shoes can last you a couple of decades. You can spend your money in your home country, keep a humble cobbler employed, and make most of your friends look poor and tasteless. Dressing well and looking confident can do wonders for the appeal of the so called unfuckables.
Agree, although if you're referring to buying clothes overseas, quality costs about the same everywhere.
I don't have to worry about the unfuckable part, but for those in the market, this is absolutely true.
I just took the average Americans dress code a bit too far...
If it makes you feel any better I can't justify dropping 9k on a jacket either
I could buy an entire wardrobe in that and have money left over...
I know too may people who have spent more than that on China manufactured outdoor clothing with popular brand labels attached.
Oh man I hate that overbranded modern polyester crap so much
$9,000 for a jacket?
What are you, a character on a cop show?
https://us.kiton.com/collections/men-blazer-jackets
YOU THINK I'M JOKING
Hey, speaking of men's dress clothing: my son is 20 and in engineering school. Two weeks ago, we bought his first suit that he will wear to interview for internships. He chose a light gray single-breasted suit that looks great, though I advised him to go with navy or charcoal gray because a few old-school guys think a light-colored suit is "unprofessional."
Then the Senate shit-canned their dress code to accommodate a mentally-deficient oaf.
Guess I'm wrong, and a light-gray suit is fine for job interviews. Hell, maybe a polo and Dockers are fine. Maybe a T-shirt and Levi's are fine. Maybe a hoodie and bassaball shorts are fine.
In a world where we seem to be racing to bottom, it is becoming increasingly easy for your son to differentiate himself from his peers.
What he said. The silver lining of modern "attire".
In preparation for my court date when I got that second Misdemeanor Reckless Op earlier this year, I decided it was the perfect excuse to buy a proper suit. Got a nice charcoal grey Jos. A. Bank suit, white Bank shirt, a couple of Bank ties, new shoes, even socks and a belt. Spent almost a thousand bucks on that outfit, all told.
I was the best-dressed person in that courtroom. You could practically hear "Sharp Dressed Man" playing when I walked in with my lawyer.
I totally get why some men insist on wearing a suit every day.
There's gotta be something said about cheap suits (I'm not talking about your getup, I swear) because for a few hundred bucks (or less!) you can totally be the best dressed dude in any room.
Yep. Lycra and stretch material in jeans makes all of these “ladies” try to stuff them pounds of crap into a five pound bag. It is disgusting
absolutely redlining the factor of safety on those things
There ought to be a law!
But why should one have to abandon one's home to find a proper mate?
The whole idea of a starter marriage is obnoxious and hateful to me, as it should be to all people of decency and good will.
This is the first time I've heard the term starter marriage. It's frightening to know there are people who think that way.
Yeah, and some use that term, and mindset, GOING INTO IT.
That is literally and factually untrue. I have never met a woman in person, whether I was pursuing them or not, who demanded any of those things from a partner lmao. Where do you get this stuff?
YOU DON'T .
There ~ I fixed it for you .
-Nate
You do though. That's basically what college is for these days.
Sure as hell isn't for gaining marketable skills.
That depends on what you're willing to tolerate.
There's Good Crazy and Bad Crazy.
Jazz players went to France and other European cities post WWII for personal and artistic freedom.
I think MGTOW is a pretty daring position to take. Most of the stuff I do is only because I want to be a good father and husband. If I didn't care about finding a woman or making sure my bloodline didn't die out, what's the point? Why would I bother?
I know this: The most average man will go to the ends of the Earth and overcome any hardship if he has a good reason.
Of course it's true. Manson got married in prison. I think even Dahmer got love letters from women and he's gay.
Not in ohio they dont.
Only with the guards.
My friend was locked up in Kansas for 3 years. Being a relatively sharp fellow he was on work release in an IT gig. The company owner was happy to have him for Pennie’s on the dollar and he was able to maintain a relationship throughout that later led to marriage.
Was
It's like school shooters. They're the ones who pulled the trigger, but they were driven to it. Society bears SOME blame and frankly, any one of us would be the gunman if pushed far enough, or in the right direction.
You post on this Substack. You're already on The List.
Might as well.
Let em' knock. Long as they fall INTO the house who gives a shit.
Everyone should be shot. Fixes everything.
If I didn't have a wife and kids there is NO WAY I would have stuck it out at my old job as long as I did. But they needed me to. I'm a much better father/husband now that I have a decent job with very little work-related stress.
I'm accidentally a "passport bro" so she's a loyal Japanese lady who would never do that to me. In fact, I work a lot less than any Japanese husband would back in her home country.
Well, you haven't died at your desk, so by Japanese standards you're a wretched shirkaday.
Isn't it always the man's fault? I mean I'm wasting digital ink stating what the entire universe knows.
Pre-divorce, my friend’s future ex-wife berated him for not making enough money. He then got a second job, and was told “You’re never home!”.
This used to be called "Manning Up" .
I did it too, once I was fully vested I kept that job even after my ex wife bailed .
I'm very glad I did as dead broke Blue Collar sucks in ways many can't imagine .
-Nate
Is that Bradley's podcast?
Who is Bradley?
I am a way happier human now that I'm retired. Well, until the money runs out.
It’s amazing what you will put up with at work when you have a family depending on you...
Reminds me of this scene from The Toy...
https://youtu.be/4C6o7vhcDIw?si=ZRkTff4yKNGMA5KS
Noted, will continue to improve my situation including AFTER fatherhood.
The problem I find is that there are FAR too few of them.
I thought the only women up there were moose.
Only in the far north. Gotta keep warm somehow.
That's right.
And Red Bull wins the Constructor's Championship in Japan on Honda's 75th Anniversary. The Singapore performance was total horseshit.
Like they turned down the cars?
I find it hard to believe their performance fell off that much for only one race.
That said I fully admit to having been overtaken by a certain dementia when it comes to conspiracy theories. I blame Covid and the guy showing up sixty years later talking about the bullet he placed on the stretcher.
Mark Hughes (Motorsport Magazine F1 guru) explained that the Singapore street circuit is so rough that it necessitates a greater ride height than other tracks, and that Red Bull's aero advantage is largely through the interation of their floor and the track. They were unable to find a good setup with this year's car and the Singapore rough track. The Japan track is relatively smooth like the other circuits so performance was resumed. I'm just relating what I read, and have no dog in the hunt so please no crazed response aimed at me. :+)
Mark Hughes is superb; he also writes for The-Race (more frequently).
Sitting in a waiting room Monday night I felt the subsonic floor rumble of a subway. There is no subterranean transport in metro Denver. It took me a few moments to realize it was caused by a very heavy woman crossing the room. No exaggeration, the water in the bottle perched on the armrest rippled just like in Jurrasic Park.
"I can feel it approaching"
Jesus my sides
The amazing thing is : many men like this sort of thing ~ an old guy I know used to send me pictures of bare ass nekkid 350 + pounders ~ GAH .
Can't unsee them .
-Nate
When I was a young guy, one of the older guys at work used to accrue the kind of smut magazines that the post office wouldn’t deliver. He left an issue of one called “Plumpers” in a truck one day. Traumatized three or four of us 20 something’s.
That was a great magazine, i mean... NEVER HEARD OF IT
i wish i'd bought a truly exceptional perfect-bound magazine in the milano airport 45 years ago; i didn't because then i wouldn't've had enough lira for an espresso and a croissant. it was a cross between hustler and the robb report. i looked for another issue when i got back a year later but it must've been a one-off. never seen anything remotely like it.
Sir, this sounds like a business opportunity. We use my talent, your name, and someone else's money. We can call it
COCKTANE
I took a bare bones trip to Europe in 1985 along with two friends. No planning, just got a flight to Brussels and rented a car.
We spent a couple of days in Paris, during which my buddy bought a magazine that sounds exactly like what you’re describing.
We then headed for Switzerland, arriving at the border after dark and in a snowstorm. The checkpoint was closed for the night.
Having nowhere to go, we slept in the car, three guys in a Ford Escort. We only had enough gas to run the engine for heat a few minutes every hour.
I awoke in the morning to a tapping on the window. It was a Swiss border guard tapping the butt of his submachine gun on the window. He was pointing at the back seat.
There lay my friend with the magazine open to some lurid display; next to him a half empty bottle of wine with the cork floating in it.
I’m surprised they let us in.
The SCP Foundation calls that sort of thing a cognitohazard.
Had a competition with a close friend in my late 20s (back when high speed internet was a rare thing) where we would compile the most bizarre and offensive (but still legal) things we could find on the internet and save for the other. There was some odd stuff out there even then.
Jesus, *her* sides.
Imagine the smell.
I'd rather not.
although smelling in that context isn't consensual
Too damn funny
Wow I do live under a rock and had no idea any of this was going on. Older and happily married I think I should have been a little more astute to what my son may be going through. A lot to unpack and consider. Now I have homework to do.
NPNW.
Brilliant. Brief, to the point, cutting to the bone.
Of course they fear it. They should, and will start a war to cull them like what they do to male baby chicks at the factory farms.
The MGTOW thing is only baffling to people who are threatened by it. I have friends who would be classified as incels. Some decided to “own it” and claim to be happier just doing their own thing. They’ve resigned themselves to the fact that they may die alone and therefore will keep living life as they see fit. For some, that means pursuing personal wealth and hobbies. For others, it’s video games and playing guitar. Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?
The last six months of my second college attempt, I went into “monk mode” and completely shut out all non-essential activities until I secured an internship over spring break. When you are laser-focused upon yourself, the lack of relationship doesn’t matter.
I understand how someone who has NEVER felt the touch of a woman can be comfortable with the MGTOW lifestyle. On one hand, they don’t really know what they’re missing. On the other, they’ve resigned themselves that they will never truly know.
To put it in car guy terms: I know that I want a McLaren F1, but I’ve never driven one and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Why let it keep me up at night?
Well think about it this way: I have driven the 'McLaren F1' of women. Was it worth it?
No.
The maintenance was way too high.
The 'F1' is always about the 'F1' and so are you if you want to keep it 'running' there is no room for YOU in that life. And it costs. It costs lots.
Sanity is very much a part of the price.
Maybe in the 50's the F1 was a fun thing to have and would be faithful and loving.
But not anymore, and not in a long time.
I'm pretty sure most men did, why I stopped going there .
-Nate
We all did...
Yes John but those F1 memories......
SIGH .
-Nate
Reminds me of that fake Aston Martin ad, “You know you’re not the first but...”.
I didn't know there was an Aston Martin version of that ad. I've seen the BMW version, which was allegedly a concept developed by a Greek ad agency and then leaked. Greek is relevant because their age of consent is 15, and the girl pictured looks younger than 18. Sounds like BMW never used it.
Hopefully I'm not parroting an online myth. Hard to find reputable sources for this.
Related to other comments here, the Aston Martin logo looks like a tramp stamp.
I've seen the ad. Both online and in mainstream glossy print media (I think). For certified pre-owned BMW.
And yes, I did feel sort of icky after looking at the ad.
They actually used it!?!?
Honestly? The sex wasn't that great and again, everything is about the F1 and not you.
I remember the frustrations and the (in one case) lack of fidelity.
If you're going to go for the F1 - get a foreign model and keep them away from American Women.
Having dated a long line of high-maintenance women, I don't disagree with any of the above. I also don't regret any of it.
What you gotta do is get yourself a nice FC RX-7, a drop top so it's easy to get topless. There's a little maintenance involved, but that little bit of love goes a long way.
We are talking about cars, right?
They will both do a great job of attracting other dudes as well.
"Who are we to judge what makes someone fulfilled?"
Herein lies the problem writ large
Forcing someone to express something they don't agree with is worse than censoring them.
You’re correct. Like much anything else these days, the hypocrisy is the flex.
Sexualizing kids?
All good.
Guy who wants to drop out of the sexual market? Dangerous to our democracy.
Single mom on welfare selling pictures on OF? Independent woman.
Basement-dwelling NEET who streams vidya?
Incel scum.
I think MGTOW and Incels are two different things.
MGTOW is about accepting you aren't getting the dates you want with the people you want and finding a way to live your life the best way you can without them. It's owning and taking responsibility for the celibacy.
Incels are involuntarily celibate. They don't take ownership of it, they blame others for denying them. That blame can, especially when they get into some online echo chamber, metastasize into violence. That is why DHS is involved.
As a clueless guy who couldn't get the women I wanted, I stopped and took a good long look in the mirror and thought about where I was falling short. In my case, it was mostly a fear of putting myself out there. Once I realized you had to risk rejection and ask for dates, I started doing it. Both the MGTOW and the incels could do this, too, but they'd have to adjust their standards and nether group is willing to do that.
I will admit that I find it annoying at times that EVERYTHING in our culture is now about women and fuck all men. Look at how 'Diverting Hate' is all about protecting woman from 'Misogyny' when Misandry is far more prevalent and a keystone of our current society. Everything about our society is about putting down and destroying men.
Look at that whole recent 'do you think of Rome' bit. In it men are talking about how they care about current events, international events, and how they're worried about that affecting their families and their wives/girlfriends. Meanwhile said wives and girlfriends are all laughing at them and totally missing the point, because men are stupid and dumb and they should be more concerned with watching Real Housewives, because that addresses REAL AND IMPORTANT issues.
Ever wonder why women live longer than men nowadays? It's not biology! All things being equal we used to live the same. But now Healthcare and society itself is focused on taking care of women while grinding men into the dirt. THAT's why women live longer - and lets not even get started in on suicide which women hardly ever do but men are doing in record numbers.
It's funny how a woman wrote the article about men, and about how we're all 'raging' and the subtext is clear - she doesn't really give a shit about men, she's just worried that 'they're not under control' and that they 'don't act like women'. All of the 'solutions' they propose are very much about making men like women. I mean look at the examples of 'male rage' she had to go back NINE years to find one?
Oh truly it is an epidemic!
The truth is, it's men that do all the work and all the hard jobs. It's men that build and maintain society. And now that men are finally starting to say 'fuck it, you don't value me, I'm done' that women are starting to become afraid. Why do you think they're importing all of those military aged young men?
They're doing it to replace their brothers and boyfriends who have grown tired of their shit. And wow are they going to be unhappy when they find out that third world 'achmed' believes his b***h should be on her knees and do as he says or he'll blacken her other eye, takes over.
Yup, welcome to the collapse.
As Bill Handel says : just kill her : you get to keep all the money and property and with good behavior you'll be out in seven years .
-Nate
You sound bitter John .
-Nate
Nope, just annoyed. Married going on 30 years. But oh some of the shit I've got sucked in to having to deal with.
Hillary Clinton said that the major victims of war are women and children.
The WSJ article is just the latest in a series by women about what's wrong with men. Maybe men aren't the problem and it's the feminized system that's messed up.
I wouldn't be unhappy if she caught a brick with her face, hypothetically speaking.
I found that article to be a disappointment. When I started reading it, I thought there was a chance they would bring up the war on men, etc., but it was all sanctimony and quite patronizing.
An article about the plights of men? In a modern rag like the Wall Street Journal?
Silly you for having hope that these people care about men!
yeah I find it irritating too man
To elaborate on Speed's point, it is not just limited to men. Brexit, Trump, whatever, it's never "does this movement have any legitimate grievances," but HOW DARE THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE DO THIS.
Unless, "these people" are military age "migrants" or pedophiles.
I have a good friend here in town who is about 35 and recently divorced. He's at that age where the list of disqualifying features in a mate in fairly long, and he lives in central Kansas. You kind of need to be "in to" fat dumb redneck chicks to date here. He would rather drink bleach.
It's fair to say that dating has been a disaster, and MGTOW might look pretty appealing.
He has three options: move, lower his expectations, or check out of the dating scene altogether.
I have a friend in Houston. He's a geologist at one of the Supermajors and has been for a decade. Educated, was pretty fit pre-COVID, and financially secure. Despite this, he is completely dateless. Why? Because he wants a Conservative Christian woman who ideally is Indian or Middle Eastern. The kicker? They also need to be comfortable with his desire to be childfree.
These desires of his for conservative Christian and no kids are nearly orthogonal
My cousin had ovarian cancer in her early 20's - completely out of left field. A lot of men would no longer date her because she couldn't have children. Eventually she found a guy (good one too plus rich) who didn't want kids and has been happily married for many decades now.
It's about proper matching.
A good friend of mine had his first marriage implode because both he and his wife had to win the argument.
Can't have a happy union of two alphas.
In his eyes, the world is too “messed up” to bring kids into it. I told him that if he feels that way, it’s probably better that he not become a father.
I told him EXACTLY that. If anything, he is the type of person who should be spitting out children. As we got older, most of my friend group realized that the only way we are going to be able to reverse the tide is to reproduce like our forefathers did.
Not to pull the "blame teh boomerz" card, but childrearing fell of a cliff with their generation. Current numbers are artificially high due to the number of large families we are importing here.
For example, my great grandparents had 4 boys and 4 girls. Those 8 people each had no more than 2 kids. My grandparents had both my mother and my uncle. My parents had me and my sister. My uncle never had children.
The tide is slowly turning with our generation, but it is going to take a lot of work to get things back to where they should be. I truly believe a lot of the "fear porn" (looming economic crisis, climate change, etc.) is meant to dissuade Middle America from having children.
From an American perspective, when the Feds stopped handing out so much land because the frontier was settled and when people moved off of farms and into cities, it made sense for the population to stabilize.
We did, and then we're being POPULATION BOMBED and now the choice is to bring children into a world of $70k jobs and $500k starter homes where they will be a despised minority.
You should still do it, but it was not wrong for people to adapt and start having 2-3 children rather than 5-10. It WAS wrong for the politicians to encourage POPULATION BOMBING.
I think Japan might self-correct.
Where should they be? 8 is a lot. I don't think it's 8.
Child care, housing, and education are brutally expensive. There is a lot conspiring against large families.
He has done an excellent job of reducing the sample size to zero! I suppose there may be one or two in the center of the venn diagram. May as well buy lottery tickets too.
Does move work? Or does it just extend the agony? It doesn't take long fish the whole pond here. In a metro, it could take a lifetime but not change the outcome
I think that it is admirable that he’s sticking to his expectations, but I think he’s looking for a nonexistent woman. Definitely should reassess what are need to haves and nice to haves.
I’ve had to do the same. Think he’s going to find out he’s been missing out on meeting some fantastic women
Agreed. I didn’t have children until my mid-thirties. Now I have four plus three grandchildren. It is the greatest thing I have ever done. The best thing about waiting though is my wife and I were financially secure when we had them so we didn’t have that strain on top of raising those yahoos. The downside was I was 60 when my youngest graduated high school. I was the old dad her whole school life.
I have just two because I made a rule for myself that I couldn't be 60 when one graduated high school. I just barely made it with my younger son - I'll be 59 1/2.
I was a bit older when I had my first. Do not recommend. People not named Tom Brady break down in their 40s. If you are lucky enough to still have your parents, they won't exactly be in their prime if you wait that long. Now not only do you get limited babysitting, but you are doubled up with toddler care and elder care. You probably have your own problems too.
I at least look young , so I might not be the obvious old dad.
That was a big one for me in my 20s and when I got back into the dating pool in my mid-30s post divorce. Glad I softened my stance... would’ve really missed out
After some reflection I need to add this. Marrying my wife was the single greatest thing I have ever done. She made everything good in my life possible through her partnership with me. She makes me strive to be better every day. I feel so fortunate when I listen to friends and acquaintances talk about their wives.
This is how I feel too.
Amen, brother.
Thank you thank you thank you, that’s so nice to read.
We’ve been married thirty years and I can honestly say that she is the sole reason we are where we are today. Without her I’d be dead or in a ditch somewhere...