Marc, who has a great record at the track, failed to secure pole position for himself because Marco set an all time lap record to take the place. Marc started from second, Fermin Aldeguer from third, with DiGi from 4th, Jorge 5th, and Luca Marini with an all-time high (I think) 6th place qualifying. Alex Marquez and Pedro Acosta were both pushed down into the third row after disastrous and middling showings, respectively.
In the sprint Marc outbrakes Marco into turn one and proceeds to lead every single moment of the race in a show of total supremacy. Marc chose a medium rear tire over the soft and made it work. Marc is a small man and the medium tire takes longer to get into its good operating temperature which made the decision something of a surprise for the sprint. Bez was never broken and finished a second down.
Jorge, defending his championship lead, kept the points loss to a minimum after making two positions to finish 3rd. Pedro and Alex both fought well and moved up for 5th and 6th place finishes. Aldeguer instigated contact and fell back through the field to 8th.
Aldegeur and Zarco are both looking good, given their return from injury, and it is especially nice to see the Z on the bike after getting tangled with Bagnaia's motorcycle in a horrific crash.
In the race proper Bez was wise to Marc's plan for turn one and successfully defended. Bez looked sharp right up until he, once again, succumbed to pressure from Marc and crashed out of the race. Bez' rash of mistakes, after building a huge lead, makes it look like he still can't stay calm and consistent after all this time. Marc took first place and held the lead for a number of laps until a hard charging Jorge (who slid into third in the first few turns) put a move on Marc in lap 7 to seize the lead. Jorge's pace didn't last, however, and metronomic Marc reeled him back in over another 6 laps to retake first. Jorge now looked to defend against Alex Marquez, Pedro Acosta, and Fermin Aldegeur who all had better pace in the latter half of the race. Ultimately, he would be passed by all three in a serious blow to his championship.
Marc managed the race to the end and held off little brother, just barely, with Pedro and Fermin well behind.
Marc Marquez has closed down a one hundred and two point gap to become the current leader of the championship. Tied in points, but ahead in GP wins, with Jorge Martin.
They are in Austria at the Red Bull Ring, not always Marc's strongest track, this weekend.
My heart bleeds for the traduced young woman who lost her life.
Eternal Rest, Grant Her, O Lord. And Let Perpetual Light Shine Upon Her.
DADDIES! Teach your daughters never to believe a claimed divorce is final (or even has been filed) unless there is a photocopy of an unquestionably Kosher such document, with a Court Clerk's "Received" rubber time stamp on it. And it's very much worth it to phone the Clerk, to make sure it's not an AI concoction.
Were I the Emperor of the Western World, I would see to it that both the lads' parents died in unheated solitary-confinement cells with nothing other than their own urine to drink. No food, of course. That would take 9 to 11 days. But I'd stop by daily, and play my accordion for them!
About which: I PRAY that the girl's parents get hyper-effective legal representation, and that the parents are sued for:
Let's say a friend and I have been doing nothing but consume alcohol from lunchtime through 4 PM. I then say to my (over the legal limit) friend, "Ya know what I've always wanted to do? Fly your helicopter."
So, my friend hands me the keys to his helicopter, and he wisely stays put, and keeps on drinkin', relying on my claim that I had watched many YouTube videos on how to pilot a private (General Aviation) helicopter.
I then die, crashing the helicopter into a girls' prep school outdoor cheerleading practice session.
The parents of those girls certainly can sue the owner of the helicopter for NEGLIGENT ENTRUSTMENT.
The fact that the Junior in the instant case had a Driver's License is the moral equivalent of used toilet paper.
Now, I am prepared to be realistic.
I (back in the day) would always advise my clients to have Comprehensive General Liability coverage on every aspect of their lives, as well as Umbrella coverage up to $6 million. (Back then, no insurers wrote personal Umbrellas over $6 million--you had to go to Underwriters at Lloyds' (and yes, I did work for Underwriters at Lloyds') and get a special binder.
Which is to say, in this case, the cashhole driver's parents might have $300,000 or $500,000 or even $6 million in available "General Household" insurance coverage, and most level-headed Risk Managers would gladly throw the whole policy in. But you are not likely to get a $10 million settlement or judgment unless you go to trial.
BTW... One of my long-ago Lloyd's cases was helping Penske Cars Ltd. (UK) defend against the Mark Donohue (F1) wrongful-death lawsuit, which was in the Rhode Island court system. I jiu-jitsu'd plaintiff's supposedly clever "Forum Shopping" to force a settlement within Penske's total insurance coverage. Thereby, all on my own, saving Penske F1 from Bankruptcy.
I am not supposed to tell you that Goodyear's RI trial lawyer hated my guts (an Irish guy, and he apparently thought I was Jewish), and so he made fun of my crucial motion. I had the last laugh, because Goodyear paid 500% more in the eventual settlement than Penske UK did--because Goodyear's local lawyer had declined to join in my motion.
I agree that AOC and Mamdani's friendly chat was blown out of proportion by the usual suspects looking for anything to embarrass the left.
I don't agree that they were too young to take 9/11 personally. I was six when the challenger exploded. I knew exactly what that explosion meant at the time. It's considered a defining memory for my peer group. All of my friends would point to that as the first big news event that they remember, despite it being an accident with no personal impact on any of us.
Given that, I can't believe a 9 year old living in NYC during 9/11 wouldn't take it personally. Same for an 11 year old only 50 miles away.
I was a ten year old in Ohio when 9/11 happened. It meant nothing to me then. Now, knowing that our government and Israel knew it was coming, how it was used to start wars that the swamp already wanted, it means not much to me now.
All of the people coming out of the woodwork to berate the thoughts of the peanut gallery seem all to be other paper thin veneer “Cali influencers”. They’re all just as shitty as one another.
Imagine getting such a financial leg up in life and squandering your efforts on Cars and Coffee. I’ve dug enough to see how the mother instantly posted on IG for her attention just the same, talking of drinking; something Mr Wehr was supposedly stopped for earlier in that night. The family had BIG money. So regardless if he earned it, as noted it was available. Ergo the easy draw of a ‘rich’ playboy type to a young girl that I’m sure was fed lie after lie.
I’ve seen conflicting comments on whether the wife knew of the gf or not. I’m guessing she didn’t. Excerpts from the deceased girl’s sister claimed he had convinced her that the divorce was finalized.
TLDR he was a turd, but most a turd without a skillset that I’m sure wasn’t improved by having a stanced out hypercar (is that fast enough to be hyper?) Either way his introduction to water was textbook sloppy. He crossed the first bit under power, got unsettled and immediately lifted (flame puffs) before stabbing the brakes within the second water hazard. So it extra unsettled things to pair with a vehicle that has no real clutch to prevent further wheelspeed. You’re at the mercy of a converter or some fragmented idea of pulling both paddles ala C8 during a panic event and sawing at the wheel.
A perfect storm aided by potentially slowed reaction of drinking. I don’t care what car you’re in, hitting a tree sideways at 50 is going to end horrifically. Maybe not an instant fireball, but death and maiming is very real.
I don’t think they deserved the ending they received, but it’s the ending they earned. Maybe more lax towards the girl but as a father you really need to drive home the point of who you get in a car with and their mannerisms. He was a good enough looking kid but I’m sure the gold wasn’t out of the question. Not the first or last good looking girl to spread her legs to jump 30 tax brackets. It’s quite an unfortunate lesson to bestow but maybe it’ll save the next girl.
In this clout chasing world I doubt it. There seems to be some type of silent war against humility. There’s nothing wrong with living a simple life if you find joy within it. Honest interactions are far more fulfilling than the shiniest new thing you can wear on your wrist etc. I’d trade all my “fortune” just to have some people / animals alive and breathing in my life again. So when you see Nepo babies throwing it all away for likes and adultery; don’t be surprised that “the poors” get up in arms over the money end.
Hell, I figured out how to overcome my OCD about settling timepieces to the second with my Tudor GMT.
Set it 30 seconds ahead. Close enough for a mechanical movement. Eventually it’ll come back to correct—if I don’t let it run too long without winding or wearing it. (I really need to invest in a winder for it.)
I think now is probably the time if one is going to have a hobby car in analog.
I don't particularly like Fox bodies, but they are getting to be quite cost prohibitive as we X'ers age into "sweet, I finally get to dip into my retirement account" years. If you want a Mustang GT, which is what I really mean by Fox body not LSC or T-bird, now is the time. Likewise for 3rd and 4th gen F-bodies. The Boxsters. All that stuff.
Fed rate hikes are making it hard to sell them at present, so if you have some ca$h you can come away with a smart deal. Those things are burning a hole in the owner's pocket and garage, and it's a better position than one might at first think.
For example, I've been looking at replacing my beater. Giving it to my FIL as a kind of "drive this when it snows" sort of thing. So, I've been looking at those nostalgic pink/purple Ford stepsides from the 90s, Dakota R/T, 1st gen Tundras, etc. Even the early supercharged Nissan Frontiers, but I despise their Mattel level interiors while being interested in a VK 5.6 Titan swap and manual conversion. They're still priced at skimulus levels because the owners who bought high don't want to lose their ass. But they sell for a humbling discount.
And the z06 still seems like the sports car deal of the decade at present. But you're hard pressed to find an original cateye Chevy half ton or 3/4 ton with the original 5.3 unmolested. They are popping up on lots in spades, often on death row beside a shitty later model Dakota with a 4.7 melty engine that makes Rover look like Peterbilt.
Likewise for bikes. There's a lot of good analog stuff out there like twinkie Harleys and Honda's Fury at cheap prices. Freddie Dobbs just did a series where he bought a 1500 quid Triumph steamer from a guy on the coast (UK, not 'murica) and made a video series of him camping with his mates, fixing it up, etc. This pairs with the older Bonneville he already had.
Component cars are also turning into a nice analog deal as many many guys who bought a "kit" from a legit brand have turned them into garage potatoes since they require sustained and real attention, not internet posts, to complete. A lot of boomers are bailing on their kit cars and their kids don't want them. So, they quietly go up for sale in whatever percent of completion the owner imagines, buyers subtracting 20 or more percent to keep it real and another 10 or 20 percent because you'll have to unfuck something gramps did poorly. And then you got yourself a feasible deal on a Cobra or whatever. I've previously threatened to build a Daytona coupe this year, but that was derailed by my somewhat forced move because of parental health issues and having them move in to my new place with us, selling houses, land, etc. in Asheville.
Additionally, those dorky Kennedy era cars from American marques are nice classics to own, even if they are not blue chip. They drive and ride well, have interesting style, and are now going for fair to cheap money. Last week I looked at a guy's early 60s Mercury Meteor for less than 2 grand. It's longer than a garage bay in your average McMansion. It's festooned with real chrome. Has a bunch of neato options, like rear glass that goes up and down. And people are now just not caring about them as collectibles. So, it's possible to get a nice old analog car for peanuts, even if it is a white elephant. But very soon you'll run into the reality of "Oh, I can't find Y-block parts anywhere anymore." or "I'm never going to find that piece of trim for my Cadillac front fender, am I?" But that's how it goes.
In many ways, at many price, style, and intended purpose points, now is really a good time to buy an analog whatever vehicle. Not the blue chip stuff like air cooled 911, Camaro Z/28 first gens, Chryslter e-bodies, etc. But reasonable price point stuff like Boxsters, Cobras, Z06, Dakota R/T, Single Cab F150 flareside/stepside, Nissan Z cars, and Mustangs of various stripes where the platform is attractive to mod or track or spiritedly Drive on Sundays.
Solid post. Ranger splash editions! I’d add fuselage body Mopar stuff-lower amounts of boomer enthusiasm for it AND lack of interest from the homies to donk them means some good deals soon?
I dont know. I think the urgency to "buy analog NOW!!!" is kinda manufactured by the usual auction house suspects.
first off a lot of what we think of as "analogue" are kinda sorta but not really. where do you draw the line, is it EPS, drive by wire, DSG vs traditional auto vs manual, do electronic diffs count, ad nauseum. if we're being honest, the time to buy analogue was.... 2019, right before LOLVID hit and the value of fixed assets was forever altered. the second best time was 2012, and before that it was 2007, and before that it was 2001.... you get the point.
its gonna be like this forever... in a decade it'll be "buy the neoclassic analogue future classics NOW!!!" and its like an FL5 CTR, any GRC left with a working motor, an M2, any pre-hybrid era Audi, final run E63s. this is just how its gonna be forever in Weimerica.
"not the blue chip stuff like [names every desirable car made pre-2000]" what you're talking about is "replacement theory" also known as "good enough syndrome". In absolutely no universe is a USED BOXSTER worth the opportunity cost of buying something newer, faster, better like an LC500, or an R8, or a C7 GS, the list goes on. the cream of the crop shit? yeah, that was worth it. but we're so far down the food chain at this point that we're salivating over used cayman S's? please. older=/=better, and we've certainly crossed the threshold where, for example, a well sorted F82 M4 is absolutely a better buy than 90% of the shit we are talking about.
It truly is a brilliant buy if you fit it and it's your aesthetic. Often we compromise for that kind of thing, but it's almost a circle when you make a venn of style and reliability.
I've seen some fairly okay used examples going as low as 2500 last couple of winters. If a guy wanted to do a repaint/custom scheme on one, and remove all the skull/concho tough guy JC Whitney stuff, you can find some smoking deals.
Reports now that the widow has hired an attorney and they made statements about searching for the source of water on the road, why the car burst into flames, etc.
Of course the lawyers are blaming it on "the water". I suppose that they will find that the water was emanating from the office building of an evil deep-pocketed oil company and go after them for billions.
Imagine getting sued for a billion dollars cause you washed your car in a driveway. Can I sue the landscaping companies when my front tire on my bike goes out because of some wet grass?
I came home from finishing second in a sailboat race tonight to watch Max Verstappen having his way with 100 other drivers in a kart race. Is it wrong that I'd have been more unhappy if Max had a bad race than I was that my team didn't win? All I know for sure is that F1 is more divorced from driver ability than at any other time in its history. Kimi Antonelli is a placeholder for whatever chick they choose to promote from Susi Wolff's F1 Academy.
I just watched the YouTube video of Max vs 100 amateur kart racers. Wow. Looks like he just floored the pedal and sliced his way thru and around them. Way more entertaining than the F1 highlights.
Not even close. Some of the drivers are letting their heads rest on the foam surround in the long corners. That's how you know they are reaching their physical limits. Six feet and 170 pounds is about the limit for F1 driver size. That doesn't get you a woman strong enough to drive the car.
I suspect the hooters waitress knew he was married and didn't care. I'm not celebrating either of their deaths but this "it's all his fault" shit usually isn't. The women are complicit.
It didn't look like he was going that fast on the video and I'd expect modern nannies to save that. It isn't a 1996 viper.
It's like gambling on your phone. Just as dangerous as always and much easier to dip your toe in the water. One minute your getting sushi and drinks with remington steele and the next your flying to dubai.
Wasn't there some tweet about how he was telling the hooters girl that "the divorce was final", or something like that? Seemed from the reporting she thought he was already seperated from the wife. I'm sure he did tell her that the McLaren was his car, not daddy's car.
Wasn't she smart enough to realize that a McLaren could not have been his car? It doesn't pass the smell test or even ten seconds of reflection.
Anyone who can earn that kind of scratch to be buying one of those is not the kind of guy who hangs out at random parking lots late at night and bangs Hooter's waitresses.
yeah... playing in this field makes the chances of your wife and side piece crossing paths at tennis or day care pickup zero. its pretty common and it costs less.
I defer to your inestimable wisdom when it comes to this sort of gossip, but he appeared to have had a distastefully modified 720S, an R8, and a late model 992 GTS.
Plus some watches, including a very rare Royal Oak perpetual calendar ultra-, ultra-thin (6mm) that was about ~$250K secondary last time I checked; production version of the RD2, basically. Only saw it in passing in a reel so I have no clue if real, his, borrowed, fake, etc.
He clearly had some money - or at least access to money - to his name. It may have been his daddy’s money, or his wife’s money rather than wealth he created … but the bulk of ACF think it’s right and proper and manly to live off either or both.
Anywa, since when is a fucking Hooters waitress from Lakeland, FL in a position to judge that dude? How uppity!
And I would blame social media, but then realized that we fell for it before.
Back in the 1960's, television taught us that an architect could live in a southern California split-level house, support a stay at home wife, six kids (three of them step-daughters, the youngest one in curls), and a full time housekeeper.
I recall a lot boy at the local Dodge dealer managed to total a new Viper on the way to fill it up at a gas station less than a mile away, just before delivery to a customer. I’ll bet there were multiple very pissed people.
Even if the kid was familiar with what a Mustang GT would do with too much throttle, a normal amount that would start a car from a stop in a not-so-brisk fashion would probably have aforementioned snake car spinning like a dreidel while pirouetting towards opposing traffic at the same time!
“Hello Conner Avenue? Another red one for us, STAT!”
The first 6.4 SRT Grand Cherokee I changed the oil on pissed out 4 of its 7 quarts of SRT-specific Pennzoil 0w-40 while I looked for a spot to park it behind the dealership. Another tech came running out shouting to shut it off. Turns out, there was a literally a snail trail all through the lot because the gasket from the old oil filter was stuck onto the engine, and I hadn't noticed, so the new filter and gasket went right on top and obviously didn't seal! The solution was taking a drain pan and 4 bottles of oil out to the Jeep right where it was and laying on the ground to remove the extra gasket. It was the closest I've ever come to ruining a running engine from mechanical negligence... So far at least! We'll see what I fuck up on the Cummins in another week or 2.
"I just did a race, so I’m allowed to drink whatever I like. Thank you so much."
but not water or gatorade/sports drink? im no athlete but water is all i bother to drink.
"Lloyd Bentsen’s famous put down of Dan Quayle, which was treated by the compliant media as authentic live-action genius but in fact had been rehearsed to perfection before the debate"
maybe old people were built different then and it could be that leaded gas (or the television) oneshotted boomers. now theyre running around watching youtube short ai slop videos and yelling about everything like retards. when did the silent generation do that
"Nothing is ever the fault of Sir Lewis"
really do hate seeing ferraris good driver getting shafted becuase the overpaid driver is whining too much. not like lewis was going to be that much worse on the brembos
"Fortunate son, third-tier influencer, parking-lot-event organizer, and unsuccessful adulterer James Wehr was lost to the Orange County car-parking community when he decided to full-throttle rip down a wet section of a surface street after midnight in his dad’s McLaren 720S"
rip the innocent victim but fuck that guy
"a low-mileage 2011 Cayman S for… $79,900"
oh come on. i like the car and the colour and the fact its a manual but 80k is completely retarded
"we might be seeing the beginning of a “nostalgia market” for Caymans. Perish the thought!"
hey i like those. maybe not as much as an mr2 but still
"But you’d be a fool to bet against the Westchester Lady in that regard"
by the time she gets there she wont be hot enough to care about. i do not want to see a brown woman president either.
"please continue to feel encouraged to mention topics in your comments!"
okay deal. does anyone know how loud is too loud on a street car? i wanted to get the racing beat race muffler and resonated midpipe and while it should never trip the sound limit at any track or public place i have no idea whats tolerable. fwiw i have a bad exhaust leak and i dont think its all that bothersome and i bet not having the exhaust leak from under my seat will be louder than a race muffler at the back of the car.
Quite vs loud is a personal preference. I do find that resonance is the enemy of comfort moreso that outright volume. If the car is a buzzy or booming prison cell it doesn't matter what the dB is coming out the back it will suck.
What are you trying to acomplish? Loud no longer equals power with modern designs, especially on a Miata where you are chasing very small gains between stock and the best flowing aftermarket setup.
i think i just want something that wont trip sound meters anywhere or get me arrested. i also really hate the double tip on the standard power pulse exhaust. i figure the resonated midpipe and cat would help tame the sound too. frankly its barely about power gained but rather something less susceptible to rust and long lasting. oem "stainless" sucks ass in that regard.
aside from being a 95 and not a 90 this is the exact setup i wanted to run. sounds pretty good but i dont think the actual volume translates well on youtube
I have a gwr roadster sport race on an ndrf. It's the best. I practically daily that car, mostly top down. It's a straight pipe with a helmholtz. Might wanna check out something similar for your model.
Pussy and booze. Man claimed to have slept with 5000 women but was also known for his drinking. (I'm a relative amateur by his standards, but OTOH he died at 45 and I'm already older than that, so I'm doing the marathon, not the sprint.)
Re: Racing Beat, I've got their cat delete, resonated mid-pipe and the Power Pulse street (not race) muffler as well as Jackson Racing headers on my '95 M-Edition. I drove a friends car that had no resonator and it wasn't just loud, it sounded dumb for a street car. I'm incredibly happy with my current setup and recommend it whole-heartedly to anybody who wants to do an exhaust upgrade or swap. I've had this setup for over 10 years now and it still looks excellent and is holding up well
i was planning on their header as well but was going to also run probably a magnaflow direct fit cat (or move to a metal 100cpi cat in the future becuase i dont want the smell of unburned fuel) so based on my own previous experiments when i had to do a cat delete on another miata it shouldnt be that awful. in the end im just looking for a lightweight exhaust that wont get me unwanted attention
Yeah, I dunno if I'd do the cat delete if I had to decide today. The stink is real. That doesn't bother me too much, but my wife complains about it. The other thing is I get a slightly gassy, oily residue on the rear bumper just above the exhaust outlet. Luckily that wipes away pretty easily with one of those "clay bar" sponges. The reason I did it at the time was because my cat was super rattly and the delete was the less expensive option. I also happened to be in the LA area for an event with the Miata at that time so I stopped in to the RB shop to buy it. They were super nice people and didn't charge me tax since I'm from Oregon. They also threw in a t-shirt. Great experience.
Maybe the used market is being smart. It's like a last time buy for some of these low mileage, clean "analog" cars from 15-30 years ago.
What are some of the downsides of getting an older, but well taken care of car like that Cayman? I see some really clean E46 M3s go for about $50k. Would I get something like that over a new Nissan Z? For speculators, it's probably a no brainer, but what about for the regular enthusiast? Those concept is a bit of a tossup for me these days.
This is a controversal take, but buy the E46 for the clout, and buy the Z if you want to drive.
I say this because the M3 is at best 20 years old, compared to modern cars they feel direct and analog, but they are far from the best example of pure drivers car. The steering is meh, they can feel a bit heavy, and the powerband is peaky so you'll get "smoked" by modern cross overs with anything less than 8/10ths effort from a light. Even the 50k examples will need ~5k of maintenance a year if you're actually putting miles on it and paying to have it done.
The Z on the other hand, will be fast, handle well, have a warranty and parts availability, not to mention the full support of a growing aftermarket if you want to make it yours.
I'm thinking it's probably the E30... That car is fun car with a wimpy engine. Does look really cool though for it's time.
What is it that colors the glasses though? I still think the styling is a big part of what drives that fandom. With that being said, the E46 is kind of up there for styling. It's nicer looking than everything that's come after it, right?
i'd agree its largely the styling, and then the social media slobjobs it gets... but i think the F80/82 is actually THE best looking, followed by the E9X, followed by the E36... and then the E46. ive come to really like the look of the G80, but its not what i'd call handsome. The G87 is far better looking, and in person you can see a lot of the F chassis lineage in its face, particularly the headlights.
you could probably make a case for the E30. the new ones have the benefit of being, well, new, viscously fast and available with a stick for now. you could maybe also argue for the trade off on E39 M5s also being egregious.
none of this dampens my want for an E34, E28, or E24.
Yeah these are the type of things people should understand before they walk into an old, low mileage, inflated car thinking that it's equivalent or better than a new car.
I probably can't justify $50k on an E46 but the lure of those older cars now is the styling. Parked next to the older cars, these new cars just seem so bloated.
If it were my money, I'd be looking at a sorted driver spec E46 in the 25-35k range. The 50k+ cars are good to sit in a collection, driven less than 1kmi/year and continue to appreciate.
IMHO the BMW to buy currently is the E9x or E82 non M cars. They have reached the bottom, and are great cars to drive. The NA versions have the quintesential BMW straight 6 vibe, and the turbo versions can make serious power, albiet with a few known pain points that will need to be addressed.
If you want into the M badge I'd say 35k goes further in a E90 or E92 than it does in the E46. You get the last NA M car, and the only (factory) V8 M3. They have rod bearing and throttle actuator issues but you'll have to deal with rod bearings and Vanos issues in the E46, so I'd call that a wash. The E90s electronics seem much better sorted versus the E46 cars. Most of the E46s I know always have minor but annoying electronic issues/faults that the owners are chasing away.
Agreed, having owned both, the E46 feels more like a mini E39 5 series in a good way, but fell apart fast as it hit 100K miles. The E90 (E92 in my case, which is one of the best looking BMWs they built IMO) is a little less special inside (but still very nice), drives well, the straight six and manual combo is perfect, and it is far more relia... well, ok I've had to replace the water pump, fuel pump, alternator, assorted modules and bodywork, both axles, and the entire rusted out subframe on the floor of my garage, but I still love it.
Oh, I had a E92 with the ugly front bumper for a few years and they're definitely the bargains but I dunno, for some reason I never really liked that car. I much preferred the way the E46s drove and looked. Maybe just me.
See, I actually have a thing for E36s over E46s, which might have driving merits, but maybe just nostalgia bias. However, I just don't think the E36 era cars have aged as well for some reason so that's why I would entertain a nice E46 as well. At this point, I'd be content with a nice 330i.
But you know how it is, some of these are low mileage rides. For the few thousand miles a year kind of car, it might be cooler to take that German tax.
If it's a daily, absolutely no brainer. But for the occasional driver I think an older car of similar buy in price may be more rewarding?
So, this is the nuance that internet enthusiasts need some opinions about. The 987 is the last generation to have the hydraulic steering, NA, and manual. The trifecta of analogness!
How are you going to tell the purists that a new Z is a superior drive without all of that wiggly steering feel and sonorous engine wail? (tried to sound like a car reviewer there)
Buy the low mile German car you like as long as it doesn’t have a fatal flaw, pay the German tax, and enjoy yourself. Experience it, then love it or sell it.
At this point, about the only modern German car I have the desire to own is another C217 S-Class Coupé (either an S 550 or an S 63. Or an S 65, but I'm not spending $80K on that).
MotoGP saw Marc vs Marco at Misano.
Marc, who has a great record at the track, failed to secure pole position for himself because Marco set an all time lap record to take the place. Marc started from second, Fermin Aldeguer from third, with DiGi from 4th, Jorge 5th, and Luca Marini with an all-time high (I think) 6th place qualifying. Alex Marquez and Pedro Acosta were both pushed down into the third row after disastrous and middling showings, respectively.
In the sprint Marc outbrakes Marco into turn one and proceeds to lead every single moment of the race in a show of total supremacy. Marc chose a medium rear tire over the soft and made it work. Marc is a small man and the medium tire takes longer to get into its good operating temperature which made the decision something of a surprise for the sprint. Bez was never broken and finished a second down.
Jorge, defending his championship lead, kept the points loss to a minimum after making two positions to finish 3rd. Pedro and Alex both fought well and moved up for 5th and 6th place finishes. Aldeguer instigated contact and fell back through the field to 8th.
Aldegeur and Zarco are both looking good, given their return from injury, and it is especially nice to see the Z on the bike after getting tangled with Bagnaia's motorcycle in a horrific crash.
In the race proper Bez was wise to Marc's plan for turn one and successfully defended. Bez looked sharp right up until he, once again, succumbed to pressure from Marc and crashed out of the race. Bez' rash of mistakes, after building a huge lead, makes it look like he still can't stay calm and consistent after all this time. Marc took first place and held the lead for a number of laps until a hard charging Jorge (who slid into third in the first few turns) put a move on Marc in lap 7 to seize the lead. Jorge's pace didn't last, however, and metronomic Marc reeled him back in over another 6 laps to retake first. Jorge now looked to defend against Alex Marquez, Pedro Acosta, and Fermin Aldegeur who all had better pace in the latter half of the race. Ultimately, he would be passed by all three in a serious blow to his championship.
Marc managed the race to the end and held off little brother, just barely, with Pedro and Fermin well behind.
Marc Marquez has closed down a one hundred and two point gap to become the current leader of the championship. Tied in points, but ahead in GP wins, with Jorge Martin.
They are in Austria at the Red Bull Ring, not always Marc's strongest track, this weekend.
LAW-SCHOOL PEDANTRY ALERT!!!
Erm, that's "Pedantry," and not "Pedophilia."
My heart bleeds for the traduced young woman who lost her life.
Eternal Rest, Grant Her, O Lord. And Let Perpetual Light Shine Upon Her.
DADDIES! Teach your daughters never to believe a claimed divorce is final (or even has been filed) unless there is a photocopy of an unquestionably Kosher such document, with a Court Clerk's "Received" rubber time stamp on it. And it's very much worth it to phone the Clerk, to make sure it's not an AI concoction.
Were I the Emperor of the Western World, I would see to it that both the lads' parents died in unheated solitary-confinement cells with nothing other than their own urine to drink. No food, of course. That would take 9 to 11 days. But I'd stop by daily, and play my accordion for them!
About which: I PRAY that the girl's parents get hyper-effective legal representation, and that the parents are sued for:
NEGLIGENT ENTRUSTMENT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_entrustment
Seeing as I'm a-goin' all Law School on Y'all:
HYPOTHETICAL:
Let's say a friend and I have been doing nothing but consume alcohol from lunchtime through 4 PM. I then say to my (over the legal limit) friend, "Ya know what I've always wanted to do? Fly your helicopter."
So, my friend hands me the keys to his helicopter, and he wisely stays put, and keeps on drinkin', relying on my claim that I had watched many YouTube videos on how to pilot a private (General Aviation) helicopter.
I then die, crashing the helicopter into a girls' prep school outdoor cheerleading practice session.
The parents of those girls certainly can sue the owner of the helicopter for NEGLIGENT ENTRUSTMENT.
The fact that the Junior in the instant case had a Driver's License is the moral equivalent of used toilet paper.
Now, I am prepared to be realistic.
I (back in the day) would always advise my clients to have Comprehensive General Liability coverage on every aspect of their lives, as well as Umbrella coverage up to $6 million. (Back then, no insurers wrote personal Umbrellas over $6 million--you had to go to Underwriters at Lloyds' (and yes, I did work for Underwriters at Lloyds') and get a special binder.
Which is to say, in this case, the cashhole driver's parents might have $300,000 or $500,000 or even $6 million in available "General Household" insurance coverage, and most level-headed Risk Managers would gladly throw the whole policy in. But you are not likely to get a $10 million settlement or judgment unless you go to trial.
BTW... One of my long-ago Lloyd's cases was helping Penske Cars Ltd. (UK) defend against the Mark Donohue (F1) wrongful-death lawsuit, which was in the Rhode Island court system. I jiu-jitsu'd plaintiff's supposedly clever "Forum Shopping" to force a settlement within Penske's total insurance coverage. Thereby, all on my own, saving Penske F1 from Bankruptcy.
I am not supposed to tell you that Goodyear's RI trial lawyer hated my guts (an Irish guy, and he apparently thought I was Jewish), and so he made fun of my crucial motion. I had the last laugh, because Goodyear paid 500% more in the eventual settlement than Penske UK did--because Goodyear's local lawyer had declined to join in my motion.
I enjoy driving a manual transmission, but I increasingly think it takes a special kind of stubborn to continue insisting on it.
I agree that AOC and Mamdani's friendly chat was blown out of proportion by the usual suspects looking for anything to embarrass the left.
I don't agree that they were too young to take 9/11 personally. I was six when the challenger exploded. I knew exactly what that explosion meant at the time. It's considered a defining memory for my peer group. All of my friends would point to that as the first big news event that they remember, despite it being an accident with no personal impact on any of us.
Given that, I can't believe a 9 year old living in NYC during 9/11 wouldn't take it personally. Same for an 11 year old only 50 miles away.
I was a ten year old in Ohio when 9/11 happened. It meant nothing to me then. Now, knowing that our government and Israel knew it was coming, how it was used to start wars that the swamp already wanted, it means not much to me now.
Cat reading for the plane: A new feral cat was discovered in Bolivia. One of the two live examples had been adopted by a family, or he’d adopted them, and was living in their home. hahah. https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/new-cat-species-identified-bolivia-first-over-century-2026-09-17/?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=6aac2ff66027130001e90354&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
Re: McCrispy…er, McLaren rather.
All of the people coming out of the woodwork to berate the thoughts of the peanut gallery seem all to be other paper thin veneer “Cali influencers”. They’re all just as shitty as one another.
Imagine getting such a financial leg up in life and squandering your efforts on Cars and Coffee. I’ve dug enough to see how the mother instantly posted on IG for her attention just the same, talking of drinking; something Mr Wehr was supposedly stopped for earlier in that night. The family had BIG money. So regardless if he earned it, as noted it was available. Ergo the easy draw of a ‘rich’ playboy type to a young girl that I’m sure was fed lie after lie.
I’ve seen conflicting comments on whether the wife knew of the gf or not. I’m guessing she didn’t. Excerpts from the deceased girl’s sister claimed he had convinced her that the divorce was finalized.
TLDR he was a turd, but most a turd without a skillset that I’m sure wasn’t improved by having a stanced out hypercar (is that fast enough to be hyper?) Either way his introduction to water was textbook sloppy. He crossed the first bit under power, got unsettled and immediately lifted (flame puffs) before stabbing the brakes within the second water hazard. So it extra unsettled things to pair with a vehicle that has no real clutch to prevent further wheelspeed. You’re at the mercy of a converter or some fragmented idea of pulling both paddles ala C8 during a panic event and sawing at the wheel.
A perfect storm aided by potentially slowed reaction of drinking. I don’t care what car you’re in, hitting a tree sideways at 50 is going to end horrifically. Maybe not an instant fireball, but death and maiming is very real.
I don’t think they deserved the ending they received, but it’s the ending they earned. Maybe more lax towards the girl but as a father you really need to drive home the point of who you get in a car with and their mannerisms. He was a good enough looking kid but I’m sure the gold wasn’t out of the question. Not the first or last good looking girl to spread her legs to jump 30 tax brackets. It’s quite an unfortunate lesson to bestow but maybe it’ll save the next girl.
In this clout chasing world I doubt it. There seems to be some type of silent war against humility. There’s nothing wrong with living a simple life if you find joy within it. Honest interactions are far more fulfilling than the shiniest new thing you can wear on your wrist etc. I’d trade all my “fortune” just to have some people / animals alive and breathing in my life again. So when you see Nepo babies throwing it all away for likes and adultery; don’t be surprised that “the poors” get up in arms over the money end.
' but maybe it’ll save the next girl.'
It won't.
There’s a pattern here sadly.
I have a traditionally styled GO senator chronograph. These 70’s throwbacks will be worth every penny.
Hey, Glashutte brought out their version of a Bulova Super Seville, neato!!
I kid, I'm sure their version is nicer, but not sure its 40x the price nicer...
It won't keep the same time, that's for sure. The Super Seville is a 262Khz movement.
A fully Japanese made Super Seville with a white gold fluted bezel would be a nice way to spend five grand.
Hell, I figured out how to overcome my OCD about settling timepieces to the second with my Tudor GMT.
Set it 30 seconds ahead. Close enough for a mechanical movement. Eventually it’ll come back to correct—if I don’t let it run too long without winding or wearing it. (I really need to invest in a winder for it.)
I think now is probably the time if one is going to have a hobby car in analog.
I don't particularly like Fox bodies, but they are getting to be quite cost prohibitive as we X'ers age into "sweet, I finally get to dip into my retirement account" years. If you want a Mustang GT, which is what I really mean by Fox body not LSC or T-bird, now is the time. Likewise for 3rd and 4th gen F-bodies. The Boxsters. All that stuff.
Fed rate hikes are making it hard to sell them at present, so if you have some ca$h you can come away with a smart deal. Those things are burning a hole in the owner's pocket and garage, and it's a better position than one might at first think.
For example, I've been looking at replacing my beater. Giving it to my FIL as a kind of "drive this when it snows" sort of thing. So, I've been looking at those nostalgic pink/purple Ford stepsides from the 90s, Dakota R/T, 1st gen Tundras, etc. Even the early supercharged Nissan Frontiers, but I despise their Mattel level interiors while being interested in a VK 5.6 Titan swap and manual conversion. They're still priced at skimulus levels because the owners who bought high don't want to lose their ass. But they sell for a humbling discount.
And the z06 still seems like the sports car deal of the decade at present. But you're hard pressed to find an original cateye Chevy half ton or 3/4 ton with the original 5.3 unmolested. They are popping up on lots in spades, often on death row beside a shitty later model Dakota with a 4.7 melty engine that makes Rover look like Peterbilt.
Likewise for bikes. There's a lot of good analog stuff out there like twinkie Harleys and Honda's Fury at cheap prices. Freddie Dobbs just did a series where he bought a 1500 quid Triumph steamer from a guy on the coast (UK, not 'murica) and made a video series of him camping with his mates, fixing it up, etc. This pairs with the older Bonneville he already had.
Component cars are also turning into a nice analog deal as many many guys who bought a "kit" from a legit brand have turned them into garage potatoes since they require sustained and real attention, not internet posts, to complete. A lot of boomers are bailing on their kit cars and their kids don't want them. So, they quietly go up for sale in whatever percent of completion the owner imagines, buyers subtracting 20 or more percent to keep it real and another 10 or 20 percent because you'll have to unfuck something gramps did poorly. And then you got yourself a feasible deal on a Cobra or whatever. I've previously threatened to build a Daytona coupe this year, but that was derailed by my somewhat forced move because of parental health issues and having them move in to my new place with us, selling houses, land, etc. in Asheville.
Additionally, those dorky Kennedy era cars from American marques are nice classics to own, even if they are not blue chip. They drive and ride well, have interesting style, and are now going for fair to cheap money. Last week I looked at a guy's early 60s Mercury Meteor for less than 2 grand. It's longer than a garage bay in your average McMansion. It's festooned with real chrome. Has a bunch of neato options, like rear glass that goes up and down. And people are now just not caring about them as collectibles. So, it's possible to get a nice old analog car for peanuts, even if it is a white elephant. But very soon you'll run into the reality of "Oh, I can't find Y-block parts anywhere anymore." or "I'm never going to find that piece of trim for my Cadillac front fender, am I?" But that's how it goes.
In many ways, at many price, style, and intended purpose points, now is really a good time to buy an analog whatever vehicle. Not the blue chip stuff like air cooled 911, Camaro Z/28 first gens, Chryslter e-bodies, etc. But reasonable price point stuff like Boxsters, Cobras, Z06, Dakota R/T, Single Cab F150 flareside/stepside, Nissan Z cars, and Mustangs of various stripes where the platform is attractive to mod or track or spiritedly Drive on Sundays.
Weeeee I’ll be shitbox rich!
Solid post. Ranger splash editions! I’d add fuselage body Mopar stuff-lower amounts of boomer enthusiasm for it AND lack of interest from the homies to donk them means some good deals soon?
I dont know. I think the urgency to "buy analog NOW!!!" is kinda manufactured by the usual auction house suspects.
first off a lot of what we think of as "analogue" are kinda sorta but not really. where do you draw the line, is it EPS, drive by wire, DSG vs traditional auto vs manual, do electronic diffs count, ad nauseum. if we're being honest, the time to buy analogue was.... 2019, right before LOLVID hit and the value of fixed assets was forever altered. the second best time was 2012, and before that it was 2007, and before that it was 2001.... you get the point.
its gonna be like this forever... in a decade it'll be "buy the neoclassic analogue future classics NOW!!!" and its like an FL5 CTR, any GRC left with a working motor, an M2, any pre-hybrid era Audi, final run E63s. this is just how its gonna be forever in Weimerica.
"not the blue chip stuff like [names every desirable car made pre-2000]" what you're talking about is "replacement theory" also known as "good enough syndrome". In absolutely no universe is a USED BOXSTER worth the opportunity cost of buying something newer, faster, better like an LC500, or an R8, or a C7 GS, the list goes on. the cream of the crop shit? yeah, that was worth it. but we're so far down the food chain at this point that we're salivating over used cayman S's? please. older=/=better, and we've certainly crossed the threshold where, for example, a well sorted F82 M4 is absolutely a better buy than 90% of the shit we are talking about.
This is a great comment.
The Honda Fury is a brilliant buy if you like the ergonomics. A friend of mine bought one for five or six grand and is enjoying the HELL out of it.
It truly is a brilliant buy if you fit it and it's your aesthetic. Often we compromise for that kind of thing, but it's almost a circle when you make a venn of style and reliability.
I've seen some fairly okay used examples going as low as 2500 last couple of winters. If a guy wanted to do a repaint/custom scheme on one, and remove all the skull/concho tough guy JC Whitney stuff, you can find some smoking deals.
Sad things about the McLaren crash:
1- A young lady was needlessly killed in terrible circumstances
2- A McLaren was needlessly wrecked in preventable circumstances
Happy things about the McLaren crash:
1- The world douchebag population is reduced by one.
Reports now that the widow has hired an attorney and they made statements about searching for the source of water on the road, why the car burst into flames, etc.
It’s going to get ugly.
Pure conjecture, but there is a solid chance he purposely did it right there because of the water.
Of course the lawyers are blaming it on "the water". I suppose that they will find that the water was emanating from the office building of an evil deep-pocketed oil company and go after them for billions.
Yes, it is absolutely the fault of WATER ON THE ROAD. If a jury will award for that, it is time to nuke California before the zombie virus spreads
Imagine getting sued for a billion dollars cause you washed your car in a driveway. Can I sue the landscaping companies when my front tire on my bike goes out because of some wet grass?
CLIBBINS
GOBBLESS
hahaha, the CA zombies are already infecting the rest of the country, and beyond.
and take your pick of Harris or Newsom as your next dear leader.
"Hell hath no fury" and all that.
I came home from finishing second in a sailboat race tonight to watch Max Verstappen having his way with 100 other drivers in a kart race. Is it wrong that I'd have been more unhappy if Max had a bad race than I was that my team didn't win? All I know for sure is that F1 is more divorced from driver ability than at any other time in its history. Kimi Antonelli is a placeholder for whatever chick they choose to promote from Susi Wolff's F1 Academy.
I just watched the YouTube video of Max vs 100 amateur kart racers. Wow. Looks like he just floored the pedal and sliced his way thru and around them. Way more entertaining than the F1 highlights.
I really wish you were wrong, but you're not.
I don't think you will see a serious female F1 driver until they make the cars physically easier to drive.
Didn't they just do that with this formula?
Not even close. Some of the drivers are letting their heads rest on the foam surround in the long corners. That's how you know they are reaching their physical limits. Six feet and 170 pounds is about the limit for F1 driver size. That doesn't get you a woman strong enough to drive the car.
Tesla fsd for F1!
Even the F1 highlights are awful to watch.
I suspect the hooters waitress knew he was married and didn't care. I'm not celebrating either of their deaths but this "it's all his fault" shit usually isn't. The women are complicit.
It didn't look like he was going that fast on the video and I'd expect modern nannies to save that. It isn't a 1996 viper.
RIP
"I suspect the hooters waitress knew he was married and didn't care."
It is highly possible IMO that she was turning a trick.
There is a significant culture in America now where you meet a girl online and basically pay her to travel to you. Sex is part of the deal of course.
sugar babying is just the SaaS-ification of the world's oldest profession.
Hey!
Don’t disintermediate me!
It's like gambling on your phone. Just as dangerous as always and much easier to dip your toe in the water. One minute your getting sushi and drinks with remington steele and the next your flying to dubai.
or, heaven forbid, Ron Mexico
Oh my God, That's disgusting! How much would it cost?
Two grand will do it in most cases.
If I was young single and wealthy, I can think of worse ways to drop 2k. Probably screws with your soul though. Good think I'm none of the above.
asking for a friend.
Wasn't there some tweet about how he was telling the hooters girl that "the divorce was final", or something like that? Seemed from the reporting she thought he was already seperated from the wife. I'm sure he did tell her that the McLaren was his car, not daddy's car.
I guess I'm gonna speak ill of the dead, but....
Wasn't she smart enough to realize that a McLaren could not have been his car? It doesn't pass the smell test or even ten seconds of reflection.
Anyone who can earn that kind of scratch to be buying one of those is not the kind of guy who hangs out at random parking lots late at night and bangs Hooter's waitresses.
I dunno, the owner of the San Francisco 49ers was just arrested in a prostitution sting in an Ohio trailer park.
This got some attention but in my opinion remains the most underreported story of the year. I’d love to know what that guy was thinking.
If I had a mclaren and was single, I'd definitely bang a hooters waitress. I have a soft spot for white trash gals.
https://open.spotify.com/track/5m1qUAN3bWZPMuZoyp9PZw?si=-D9Bo2lRRQGAGZ_n8Ey0nw&utm_source=copy-link
This song is for you.
You. Would. Be. Surprised.
yeah... playing in this field makes the chances of your wife and side piece crossing paths at tennis or day care pickup zero. its pretty common and it costs less.
"Wasn't she smart enough to realize that a McLaren could not have been his car? It doesn't pass the smell test or even ten seconds of reflection."
I'm sure she thought "rich kid".
I defer to your inestimable wisdom when it comes to this sort of gossip, but he appeared to have had a distastefully modified 720S, an R8, and a late model 992 GTS.
Plus some watches, including a very rare Royal Oak perpetual calendar ultra-, ultra-thin (6mm) that was about ~$250K secondary last time I checked; production version of the RD2, basically. Only saw it in passing in a reel so I have no clue if real, his, borrowed, fake, etc.
He clearly had some money - or at least access to money - to his name. It may have been his daddy’s money, or his wife’s money rather than wealth he created … but the bulk of ACF think it’s right and proper and manly to live off either or both.
Anywa, since when is a fucking Hooters waitress from Lakeland, FL in a position to judge that dude? How uppity!
Well, everyone in my You Tube feed owns a McLaren as far as I can tell. 🤣
Social media tends to do that.
And I would blame social media, but then realized that we fell for it before.
Back in the 1960's, television taught us that an architect could live in a southern California split-level house, support a stay at home wife, six kids (three of them step-daughters, the youngest one in curls), and a full time housekeeper.
I recall a lot boy at the local Dodge dealer managed to total a new Viper on the way to fill it up at a gas station less than a mile away, just before delivery to a customer. I’ll bet there were multiple very pissed people.
I mean… That’s on the manager. What would a 16 year old you do with a viper?
Even if the kid was familiar with what a Mustang GT would do with too much throttle, a normal amount that would start a car from a stop in a not-so-brisk fashion would probably have aforementioned snake car spinning like a dreidel while pirouetting towards opposing traffic at the same time!
“Hello Conner Avenue? Another red one for us, STAT!”
Sixteen-year-old me would have crashed that thing in the first seventy seconds.
16 y/o me? Probably forget to put oil in it and lock it up.
The first 6.4 SRT Grand Cherokee I changed the oil on pissed out 4 of its 7 quarts of SRT-specific Pennzoil 0w-40 while I looked for a spot to park it behind the dealership. Another tech came running out shouting to shut it off. Turns out, there was a literally a snail trail all through the lot because the gasket from the old oil filter was stuck onto the engine, and I hadn't noticed, so the new filter and gasket went right on top and obviously didn't seal! The solution was taking a drain pan and 4 bottles of oil out to the Jeep right where it was and laying on the ground to remove the extra gasket. It was the closest I've ever come to ruining a running engine from mechanical negligence... So far at least! We'll see what I fuck up on the Cummins in another week or 2.
Id have killed myself way before it needed oil
Did we get a State of the Stack this year?
No sir. I'll do one for Sunday
"I just did a race, so I’m allowed to drink whatever I like. Thank you so much."
but not water or gatorade/sports drink? im no athlete but water is all i bother to drink.
"Lloyd Bentsen’s famous put down of Dan Quayle, which was treated by the compliant media as authentic live-action genius but in fact had been rehearsed to perfection before the debate"
maybe old people were built different then and it could be that leaded gas (or the television) oneshotted boomers. now theyre running around watching youtube short ai slop videos and yelling about everything like retards. when did the silent generation do that
"Nothing is ever the fault of Sir Lewis"
really do hate seeing ferraris good driver getting shafted becuase the overpaid driver is whining too much. not like lewis was going to be that much worse on the brembos
"Fortunate son, third-tier influencer, parking-lot-event organizer, and unsuccessful adulterer James Wehr was lost to the Orange County car-parking community when he decided to full-throttle rip down a wet section of a surface street after midnight in his dad’s McLaren 720S"
rip the innocent victim but fuck that guy
"a low-mileage 2011 Cayman S for… $79,900"
oh come on. i like the car and the colour and the fact its a manual but 80k is completely retarded
"we might be seeing the beginning of a “nostalgia market” for Caymans. Perish the thought!"
hey i like those. maybe not as much as an mr2 but still
"But you’d be a fool to bet against the Westchester Lady in that regard"
by the time she gets there she wont be hot enough to care about. i do not want to see a brown woman president either.
"please continue to feel encouraged to mention topics in your comments!"
okay deal. does anyone know how loud is too loud on a street car? i wanted to get the racing beat race muffler and resonated midpipe and while it should never trip the sound limit at any track or public place i have no idea whats tolerable. fwiw i have a bad exhaust leak and i dont think its all that bothersome and i bet not having the exhaust leak from under my seat will be louder than a race muffler at the back of the car.
https://www.racingbeat.com/Miata-1990-2005/Exhaust-90-97-Miata/RP90-95.html
Quite vs loud is a personal preference. I do find that resonance is the enemy of comfort moreso that outright volume. If the car is a buzzy or booming prison cell it doesn't matter what the dB is coming out the back it will suck.
What are you trying to acomplish? Loud no longer equals power with modern designs, especially on a Miata where you are chasing very small gains between stock and the best flowing aftermarket setup.
i think i just want something that wont trip sound meters anywhere or get me arrested. i also really hate the double tip on the standard power pulse exhaust. i figure the resonated midpipe and cat would help tame the sound too. frankly its barely about power gained but rather something less susceptible to rust and long lasting. oem "stainless" sucks ass in that regard.
Youtube exhaust videos, it won't give you real sound like it will be on your car, but it is good to compare apples to oranges for raw volume output.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_FFnIyuec
aside from being a 95 and not a 90 this is the exact setup i wanted to run. sounds pretty good but i dont think the actual volume translates well on youtube
I have a gwr roadster sport race on an ndrf. It's the best. I practically daily that car, mostly top down. It's a straight pipe with a helmholtz. Might wanna check out something similar for your model.
if i could i would becuase that sure seems like the way to go
I have that same exhaust on my ND2. I agree with you. I don't think there's anything better.
I'm mulling an exhaust for my S2000. So many choices, but it's sounding like you're looking for something much louder than what I'd want! LOL
The Ansa muffler and stock mid pipe sound nice on the NA IMHO and move enough air for street builds.
Light of the world, shine on me
Love is the Ansa
"but not water or gatorade/sports drink? im no athlete but water is all i bother to drink."
I'm more on the James Hunt diet, myself.
Pussy?
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ahead of his time
For when you’re thirsty…and horny!
Pussy and booze. Man claimed to have slept with 5000 women but was also known for his drinking. (I'm a relative amateur by his standards, but OTOH he died at 45 and I'm already older than that, so I'm doing the marathon, not the sprint.)
I don't believe the 5k women
Re: Racing Beat, I've got their cat delete, resonated mid-pipe and the Power Pulse street (not race) muffler as well as Jackson Racing headers on my '95 M-Edition. I drove a friends car that had no resonator and it wasn't just loud, it sounded dumb for a street car. I'm incredibly happy with my current setup and recommend it whole-heartedly to anybody who wants to do an exhaust upgrade or swap. I've had this setup for over 10 years now and it still looks excellent and is holding up well
https://www.racingbeat.com/Miata-1990-2005/Exhaust-90-97-Miata/PP90-95.html
excellent info thank you
i was planning on their header as well but was going to also run probably a magnaflow direct fit cat (or move to a metal 100cpi cat in the future becuase i dont want the smell of unburned fuel) so based on my own previous experiments when i had to do a cat delete on another miata it shouldnt be that awful. in the end im just looking for a lightweight exhaust that wont get me unwanted attention
Yeah, I dunno if I'd do the cat delete if I had to decide today. The stink is real. That doesn't bother me too much, but my wife complains about it. The other thing is I get a slightly gassy, oily residue on the rear bumper just above the exhaust outlet. Luckily that wipes away pretty easily with one of those "clay bar" sponges. The reason I did it at the time was because my cat was super rattly and the delete was the less expensive option. I also happened to be in the LA area for an event with the Miata at that time so I stopped in to the RB shop to buy it. They were super nice people and didn't charge me tax since I'm from Oregon. They also threw in a t-shirt. Great experience.
Modern high flow cats are good enough to not deal with the stink.
right i just thought i could make a smaller lighter and higher flowing cat out of a metal core one
Maybe the used market is being smart. It's like a last time buy for some of these low mileage, clean "analog" cars from 15-30 years ago.
What are some of the downsides of getting an older, but well taken care of car like that Cayman? I see some really clean E46 M3s go for about $50k. Would I get something like that over a new Nissan Z? For speculators, it's probably a no brainer, but what about for the regular enthusiast? Those concept is a bit of a tossup for me these days.
This is a controversal take, but buy the E46 for the clout, and buy the Z if you want to drive.
I say this because the M3 is at best 20 years old, compared to modern cars they feel direct and analog, but they are far from the best example of pure drivers car. The steering is meh, they can feel a bit heavy, and the powerband is peaky so you'll get "smoked" by modern cross overs with anything less than 8/10ths effort from a light. Even the 50k examples will need ~5k of maintenance a year if you're actually putting miles on it and paying to have it done.
The Z on the other hand, will be fast, handle well, have a warranty and parts availability, not to mention the full support of a growing aftermarket if you want to make it yours.
E46 M3 has to be the most "rose colored glasses" car in the BMW back portfolio right now.
I'm thinking it's probably the E30... That car is fun car with a wimpy engine. Does look really cool though for it's time.
What is it that colors the glasses though? I still think the styling is a big part of what drives that fandom. With that being said, the E46 is kind of up there for styling. It's nicer looking than everything that's come after it, right?
i'd agree its largely the styling, and then the social media slobjobs it gets... but i think the F80/82 is actually THE best looking, followed by the E9X, followed by the E36... and then the E46. ive come to really like the look of the G80, but its not what i'd call handsome. The G87 is far better looking, and in person you can see a lot of the F chassis lineage in its face, particularly the headlights.
Don't get me started on E30 M3s, or the new ones, but you're probably right.
you could probably make a case for the E30. the new ones have the benefit of being, well, new, viscously fast and available with a stick for now. you could maybe also argue for the trade off on E39 M5s also being egregious.
none of this dampens my want for an E34, E28, or E24.
I had a 2002 M3, I agree. I'd like the engine in a e30 though! I have a hard time believing the engine in the Z is very sexy.
Yeah these are the type of things people should understand before they walk into an old, low mileage, inflated car thinking that it's equivalent or better than a new car.
I probably can't justify $50k on an E46 but the lure of those older cars now is the styling. Parked next to the older cars, these new cars just seem so bloated.
If it were my money, I'd be looking at a sorted driver spec E46 in the 25-35k range. The 50k+ cars are good to sit in a collection, driven less than 1kmi/year and continue to appreciate.
IMHO the BMW to buy currently is the E9x or E82 non M cars. They have reached the bottom, and are great cars to drive. The NA versions have the quintesential BMW straight 6 vibe, and the turbo versions can make serious power, albiet with a few known pain points that will need to be addressed.
If you want into the M badge I'd say 35k goes further in a E90 or E92 than it does in the E46. You get the last NA M car, and the only (factory) V8 M3. They have rod bearing and throttle actuator issues but you'll have to deal with rod bearings and Vanos issues in the E46, so I'd call that a wash. The E90s electronics seem much better sorted versus the E46 cars. Most of the E46s I know always have minor but annoying electronic issues/faults that the owners are chasing away.
Agreed, having owned both, the E46 feels more like a mini E39 5 series in a good way, but fell apart fast as it hit 100K miles. The E90 (E92 in my case, which is one of the best looking BMWs they built IMO) is a little less special inside (but still very nice), drives well, the straight six and manual combo is perfect, and it is far more relia... well, ok I've had to replace the water pump, fuel pump, alternator, assorted modules and bodywork, both axles, and the entire rusted out subframe on the floor of my garage, but I still love it.
Oh, I had a E92 with the ugly front bumper for a few years and they're definitely the bargains but I dunno, for some reason I never really liked that car. I much preferred the way the E46s drove and looked. Maybe just me.
See, I actually have a thing for E36s over E46s, which might have driving merits, but maybe just nostalgia bias. However, I just don't think the E36 era cars have aged as well for some reason so that's why I would entertain a nice E46 as well. At this point, I'd be content with a nice 330i.
Fully agree.
Just get the NIssan and take the drop in credit score that comes with buying one. Old German cars are expensive.
But you know how it is, some of these are low mileage rides. For the few thousand miles a year kind of car, it might be cooler to take that German tax.
If it's a daily, absolutely no brainer. But for the occasional driver I think an older car of similar buy in price may be more rewarding?
Having driven a 987 and a Nissan Z extensively, I'll take the Z. The 987 is a better track car but neither is equal to, say, a $12,000 formula vee.
So, this is the nuance that internet enthusiasts need some opinions about. The 987 is the last generation to have the hydraulic steering, NA, and manual. The trifecta of analogness!
How are you going to tell the purists that a new Z is a superior drive without all of that wiggly steering feel and sonorous engine wail? (tried to sound like a car reviewer there)
Buy the low mile German car you like as long as it doesn’t have a fatal flaw, pay the German tax, and enjoy yourself. Experience it, then love it or sell it.
At this point, about the only modern German car I have the desire to own is another C217 S-Class Coupé (either an S 550 or an S 63. Or an S 65, but I'm not spending $80K on that).
Why bother with German? Buy an Italian car and really enjoy yourself.