Today has been clarifying. Watching people celebrate or "oh well!" the murder of Charlie Kirk has provided clarity on who and what they are.
Appeals to reason are in vain. Pointing out that whether you liked what he had to say or not that he committed entirely to *debate* and speech to hammer out differences like civilized people are supposed to do only to be met with "LOL" from people who are not even remotely trying to hide their mirth that someone murdered him...
I have said here before that I'm on bended knee begging people not to pull the pin because they don't want to live in the world they would create in their arrogance. The pin moved today.
A lot.
Look at DNC leaders. Obama is out there saying this is awful and unacceptable. But Blue Sky and Reddit are laughing about it.
Obama, as corrupt and awful as he is, understands what's on the line here.
Reddit, unsurprisingly, doesn't.
There's no two sides on this one. There's only right and wrong. If someone is so high on their own supply that they can't grasp how much more dangerous the future became for everyone because of today then they quite literally are the problem.
So sad, he was quite obviously trying his best to move the social needle towards civility and unity while pursuing the truth. I shouldn't have watched the videos and it made it worse, I've been sick to my stomach all afternoon. No amount of 'justice' is going to bring him back or raise his kids.
While I agree with you in principle, the problem with anger is that it leads to violence, and I REALLY don't want this country to have a second civil war. There are SO many people out there who will smirk and 'fuck him' and 'good!' that they can't possibly all be dealt with. The Donald might have won the election but there were monumental numbers of folks on the other side of the street.
I do. I want a second civil war. Because nothing else will stop these people. They are entitled to kill whoever they want because they know they won't be punished and they'll be celebrated.
Time to end that.
Time for violence TOO BEGET VIOLENCE.
Because that is the only lesson that people will remember.
That is the only action that has EVER brought peace.
Worse were the responses about the poor girl. Kirk was a somebody. A small somebody but still. She was a nobody. They opened a Go Fund me for Brown until it was closed. 'She deserved it for slavery or Daniel Penny or the magic word, etc.' It was everywhere. There is no reconciliation for this.
We have moved from right and wrong which is horrible. The victims death is horrible and the cowards on the train are part of the problem. Looked away rather than helping. Even if you don’t actively intervene rendering aid is still honorable. Yet nothing. Having been to and ridden the trains on the Queen City I can assure you only if I didn’t think I could stop him.
Having real discourse is what I love about this group. Want to and would love to have this do this dialogue in person but the sickness and resulting death of a loved one kept me from First Principles.
Don’t know Charlie, never watched him, but want people to speak their mind. The fact that Obama said that is redeeming in some respect and means he gets it, but anyone associated with the working end and part of the only two political parties I have issues with. All in it for keeping power. Once they go, the US moves forward.
No way we will have single item bills, term limit so no one is in power too long, the ban on PAC money and individual donation are the only way to go. A corporation can only give as much as an individual and all donations to anyone are logged and public.
Charlie Kirk, requiescat in pace. There is a good chance that this horrific event will actually become a Turning Point (ugh), and much depends on whether the administration will finally assume sweeping powers to go after the antifa terrorists and their many enablers. (Which is what it was elected for.) But the pessimist in me says it will blow over as quickly as the assassination attempt on Trump himself.
Less power, not more, for the Presidency, congress and judiciary. What Trump does today, a democrat will do in some future administration, but probably worse.
We burned down the country for a drug addict and an accidental death. I would mind a response in kind for a father of two. I dont really want civil war but this is getting ridiculous
This Decarlos Brown character is a mad dog, and we should put down mad dogs. Doesn't matter if he was insane, or for some other reason couldn't understand the consequences of his behavior. He's a danger to society and should've been welded into a cage or shot dead years ago.
And I'll just say what we're all thinking: The fact that he was named Decarlos instead of Gary or Mike or Joe should've been a giant goddamned red flag he was gonna hurt SOMEBODY at some point.
It is righteous to hate both Brown *and* his enablers. The judge that kept him free happened to have part ownership in whatever rehab facility he was entrusted to.
Bystanders eventually attempted to render aid. It was too late and likely fruitless from the hit she took.
Also, Cobb and Cook are sorority sisters.
Kirk was as normie right as they come. From here there be dragons.
FWIW, I've followed Kirk and TP for a while, and it's not like he was participating in the Munk Debates. While he wasn't exactly Eric Cartman, his campus performances were more that than not.
That said, this is a horrific act and crime, and bodes badly for everyone, regardless of political stripe.
As for Lisa Cook, I'd be 100% on board with her removal... if the Administration actually bothered to hold its own people to the same standard. When the Cook news broke, it became a pretty open secret in DC and NY which senior people in the Administration are guilty of the same exact thing.
The Ukrainian Flags have failed to show any interest in the fate of Iryna Zarutska; I can only assume they don't want to alienate the USAID cabal (Democrats, neocons). They won't bite the hand that feeds them
"just died from a shot to the neck during a campus speech"
wasnt a huge fan of the guy or some of what he belived in but getting shot in the neck is going to boil the water pretty damn quick. or maybe nothing will ever happen about it
"She came from Ukraine to find safety, but in reality Vladimir Putin couldn’t have killed her as surely and heartlessly as Decarlos Brown did"
wrong guy got shot in the neck today. i dont care that he was failed by multiple elements but the fact remains that hes a danger to everyone around him and should never have been anywhere outside of a cell. im sick of things of this nature happening and nothing being done or even attempted. these are the people that need to be removed from society by being put in a cell or in the ground.
"If she was too stupid or ignorant to know what she was doing, she shouldn’t be on the Board to begin with"
oh cool a retarded obese black woman who is just breaking whatever laws she feels like becuase she thinks she can get away with it. super. this really makes america look like a superpower.
some antifa moron fell for their own propaganda. In fact, Kirk was to the left of the better part of the current admin. There's a lot of hand-wringing going on...
It doesn't matter where Kirk "fell," it only mattered that he was fairly prominent on the political right. He brought attention to a competing argument ; therefore, he must be destroyed. Pour encourager les autres.
As a liberal pundit, you are at essentially zero risk of targeted harm.
As a conservative pundit, you are at risk of harm in direct proportion to -- not how extreme you are -- but how well-known and effective you are. Charlie Kirk will get shot well before any actual "neo-Nazi", and the reason for that is because the media will more openly fantasize about harm coming to Charlie Kirk.
Totally agreed, Charlie Kirk could draw a large crowd no matter where he went and he got his message out there, that is what made him dangerous to the left.
it's all meaningless in a public discourse where harmless normies like Kirk get marked as "Nazis". The NSDAP is a historical phenomenon of a century ago, and I think the lolbertarian take of "Nazis" being socialists isn't just imprecise, it doesn't resonate anymore
Charlie Kirk was not dangerous because he said mean things. That was just how his opponents justified their hate.
He was dangerous because he built a pipeline by which he could bring younger Americans into the Conservative fold. And he did so by targeting the proverbial cornerstone of the Leftist power structure, college campuses.
I've seen some over-reactive practices in response to SOX and the fear it created in the corporate world. Even witnessed a CEO ouster due to less than stellar performance, not fraud. People in finance getting fired for financial fraud shouldn't be open for debate, stating the obvious, I know.
For the second time this season, Norris drove straight onto the grass and blamed Verstappen. Also, it must have been a bit disheartening for Norris for Max to give back the lead and then pass him with a slower car and drive off to win.
Today has been clarifying. Watching people celebrate or "oh well!" the murder of Charlie Kirk has provided clarity on who and what they are.
Appeals to reason are in vain. Pointing out that whether you liked what he had to say or not that he committed entirely to *debate* and speech to hammer out differences like civilized people are supposed to do only to be met with "LOL" from people who are not even remotely trying to hide their mirth that someone murdered him...
I have said here before that I'm on bended knee begging people not to pull the pin because they don't want to live in the world they would create in their arrogance. The pin moved today.
A lot.
Look at DNC leaders. Obama is out there saying this is awful and unacceptable. But Blue Sky and Reddit are laughing about it.
Obama, as corrupt and awful as he is, understands what's on the line here.
Reddit, unsurprisingly, doesn't.
There's no two sides on this one. There's only right and wrong. If someone is so high on their own supply that they can't grasp how much more dangerous the future became for everyone because of today then they quite literally are the problem.
Mark it.
So sad, he was quite obviously trying his best to move the social needle towards civility and unity while pursuing the truth. I shouldn't have watched the videos and it made it worse, I've been sick to my stomach all afternoon. No amount of 'justice' is going to bring him back or raise his kids.
Not sad. Infuriating.
Let Kirk's family be sad. Let the rest of us burn with anger at his murder.
While I agree with you in principle, the problem with anger is that it leads to violence, and I REALLY don't want this country to have a second civil war. There are SO many people out there who will smirk and 'fuck him' and 'good!' that they can't possibly all be dealt with. The Donald might have won the election but there were monumental numbers of folks on the other side of the street.
Jeez.
/Cpt. Barbossa meme. 'Well you're in one.'
Single tear.
You don't use Marquess of Queensbury rules against an opponent committed to winning using MMA.
If it comes, it's because THEY started it.
Agreed. Full spectrum dominance.
I do. I want a second civil war. Because nothing else will stop these people. They are entitled to kill whoever they want because they know they won't be punished and they'll be celebrated.
Time to end that.
Time for violence TOO BEGET VIOLENCE.
Because that is the only lesson that people will remember.
That is the only action that has EVER brought peace.
Agree!
the vid was gruesome
there was a LOT of blood
The way he went stiff I knew he was dead. I've hunted and youtube'd enough to know. Like why can't it be the bad guys?
i dont know how anyone could have recovered from a blown out artery
some people will have the same thought as you and might start taking shots at lefties now
It looked like it hit his spine.
I’ve read there’s an AI fake out there that pretty gory. I haven’t seen it or the real one.
reddit is a cesspool of retards (good ai material somehow) so these people will be caught and blindsided by the aftereffects of this event
and as usual will mock them
Kurt Schlichter has written all the second civil warn porn one can handle. Some of it quite prophetic, though.
https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/kurt-schlichter/
Worse were the responses about the poor girl. Kirk was a somebody. A small somebody but still. She was a nobody. They opened a Go Fund me for Brown until it was closed. 'She deserved it for slavery or Daniel Penny or the magic word, etc.' It was everywhere. There is no reconciliation for this.
Let America's crazy homeless be crazy and homeless in central Alaska.
Remember how Rainbow Six ended?
Anyone who watched the video of that and wasn't horrified by the look on her face isn't entirely human
He supports the second amendment so murdering him is ok came up in the lefty circle. I will say almost everone called that guy a loon
Amen.
We have moved from right and wrong which is horrible. The victims death is horrible and the cowards on the train are part of the problem. Looked away rather than helping. Even if you don’t actively intervene rendering aid is still honorable. Yet nothing. Having been to and ridden the trains on the Queen City I can assure you only if I didn’t think I could stop him.
Having real discourse is what I love about this group. Want to and would love to have this do this dialogue in person but the sickness and resulting death of a loved one kept me from First Principles.
Don’t know Charlie, never watched him, but want people to speak their mind. The fact that Obama said that is redeeming in some respect and means he gets it, but anyone associated with the working end and part of the only two political parties I have issues with. All in it for keeping power. Once they go, the US moves forward.
No way we will have single item bills, term limit so no one is in power too long, the ban on PAC money and individual donation are the only way to go. A corporation can only give as much as an individual and all donations to anyone are logged and public.
So many issues.
Great watch review, but so many issues
Charlie Kirk, requiescat in pace. There is a good chance that this horrific event will actually become a Turning Point (ugh), and much depends on whether the administration will finally assume sweeping powers to go after the antifa terrorists and their many enablers. (Which is what it was elected for.) But the pessimist in me says it will blow over as quickly as the assassination attempt on Trump himself.
I'm wary of any more "sweeping powers." What one side wields today, the other wields tomorrow.
Ah yes, Queensbury rules.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/after-trump-the-next-democratic-president-will-be-imperial.html
Yes, coins have two sides.
The left has always acted in a Schmittian way. It's time to reclaim and properly implement him.
The thermostatic response will be more and more extreme.
does the edge count
squinty eyes
Less power, not more, for the Presidency, congress and judiciary. What Trump does today, a democrat will do in some future administration, but probably worse.
We burned down the country for a drug addict and an accidental death. I would mind a response in kind for a father of two. I dont really want civil war but this is getting ridiculous
This Decarlos Brown character is a mad dog, and we should put down mad dogs. Doesn't matter if he was insane, or for some other reason couldn't understand the consequences of his behavior. He's a danger to society and should've been welded into a cage or shot dead years ago.
And I'll just say what we're all thinking: The fact that he was named Decarlos instead of Gary or Mike or Joe should've been a giant goddamned red flag he was gonna hurt SOMEBODY at some point.
yup
one time treatment with lead administered at high velocity
Or my aforementioned bobcat bag treatment.
im against animal cruelty
you can in fact just shoot them and be done with it lest you revel in torment of some other being
Society's psychos must be made to fear the law the way normal people do.
If that takes creativity, so be it.
If it makes you feel better, we could use raccoons instead of a bobcat.
you can just whip them man you dont have to bring innocent animals into it
Canada geese, then!
Surely your heart doesn't bleed for them!
Tell me about the rabbit’s George
It is righteous to hate both Brown *and* his enablers. The judge that kept him free happened to have part ownership in whatever rehab facility he was entrusted to.
Bystanders eventually attempted to render aid. It was too late and likely fruitless from the hit she took.
Also, Cobb and Cook are sorority sisters.
Kirk was as normie right as they come. From here there be dragons.
Wasn’t even a judge. Was a magistrate with a law degree but was not able to pass the bar exam multiple times.
FTR, Charlie Kirk wasn't the "Change my Mind" meme-maker. That was Steven Crowder.
Oh man! That accidentally makes a secondary point -- he was so inoffensive that I confused him with another inoffensive tradcon.
IKR?
FWIW, I've followed Kirk and TP for a while, and it's not like he was participating in the Munk Debates. While he wasn't exactly Eric Cartman, his campus performances were more that than not.
That said, this is a horrific act and crime, and bodes badly for everyone, regardless of political stripe.
As for Lisa Cook, I'd be 100% on board with her removal... if the Administration actually bothered to hold its own people to the same standard. When the Cook news broke, it became a pretty open secret in DC and NY which senior people in the Administration are guilty of the same exact thing.
I GUARANTEE you they already have all the high-brow apologetics in place for when the cops catch the tranny psycho that iced Charlie Kirk.
I uh…you know what? I really am just over all of it and everything.
Flood it again. I’m ready.
"There's a rogue comet headed for earth, and the United States government just asked us to save the world. I told 'em I'd call 'em back."
theres a solution to all of this
it is very difficult
Thankfully Lockheed owns Sikorsky and not Boeing. We are going to need a lot more helicopters.
The Ukrainian Flags have failed to show any interest in the fate of Iryna Zarutska; I can only assume they don't want to alienate the USAID cabal (Democrats, neocons). They won't bite the hand that feeds them
Your typical "FREE UKRAINE" person is a woman who has less than zero interest in seeing 100,000 tall white women in her home town.
wait theyre tall
how do i order one
To the googles with you!
there's probably an app for that.
Tall and hot. And Traditional.
An Eastern European woman will eat your alive if your game isn’t tight
I live this every day.
"just died from a shot to the neck during a campus speech"
wasnt a huge fan of the guy or some of what he belived in but getting shot in the neck is going to boil the water pretty damn quick. or maybe nothing will ever happen about it
"She came from Ukraine to find safety, but in reality Vladimir Putin couldn’t have killed her as surely and heartlessly as Decarlos Brown did"
wrong guy got shot in the neck today. i dont care that he was failed by multiple elements but the fact remains that hes a danger to everyone around him and should never have been anywhere outside of a cell. im sick of things of this nature happening and nothing being done or even attempted. these are the people that need to be removed from society by being put in a cell or in the ground.
"If she was too stupid or ignorant to know what she was doing, she shouldn’t be on the Board to begin with"
oh cool a retarded obese black woman who is just breaking whatever laws she feels like becuase she thinks she can get away with it. super. this really makes america look like a superpower.
maybe this really is clownworld
QUIET! A black woman is speaking!!
I believe Al Bundy would've called her a "pudding of a woman."
TIL that you can be a judge in America without passing the bar
i still have no idea how thats even possible (i can guess)
You call them a magistrate instead of a judge.
I would put money she can’t spell (or pronounce) that word.
Let me axe you a question
Id suspect we would be better if less judges werr lawyers
It is not required to have a law degree, be a lawyer, or pass the bar, to be a Judge.
can't you get in by election?
Election, appointment, however it's done.
But there's no requirement to pass the bar that I've ever heard of. That would create a privileged class.
Like a Sheriff who's never been a cop. Pretty wild.
Sheriff's have to get training when assume office.
I just want to hop on my bike and ride. And never stop.
The world is broken.
In any case, there exists a number of people willing and able to assassinate those inoffensive, willing-to-engage tradcons. This is not good.
some antifa moron fell for their own propaganda. In fact, Kirk was to the left of the better part of the current admin. There's a lot of hand-wringing going on...
Make no mistake, he didn't 'fall for it'. They are steeped in this. True believers and much as any bomb vest carrying Mohammadean.
Exactly. I’ve repeated this countless times to anyone who would listen. These people are not dumb. This is their religion and thus, their Jihad.
Agreed
It doesn't matter where Kirk "fell," it only mattered that he was fairly prominent on the political right. He brought attention to a competing argument ; therefore, he must be destroyed. Pour encourager les autres.
? I was referring to the assassin.
Sorry, meant it didn't matter where he was in relation to the admin.
New theory, continuing with this:
As a liberal pundit, you are at essentially zero risk of targeted harm.
As a conservative pundit, you are at risk of harm in direct proportion to -- not how extreme you are -- but how well-known and effective you are. Charlie Kirk will get shot well before any actual "neo-Nazi", and the reason for that is because the media will more openly fantasize about harm coming to Charlie Kirk.
/Archer meme: 'Do you want Nazis? Because this is how you get Nazis!'
And then one day for no reason at all. Im at the “throw them out of helicopters” if this turns out how i suspect it will.
you are at zero risk as a liberal unless you take public transportation
Well, you might get your baseball stolen.
And then, only randomly.
Zero risk? Thinking about it, what about Jussie Smollett?
Totally agreed, Charlie Kirk could draw a large crowd no matter where he went and he got his message out there, that is what made him dangerous to the left.
And yet he acted as a gatekeeper to keep normies on the reservation lest they drift into (old school) /pol territory.
Nazi's are leftists. So are Neo-Nazis. I hate that people confuse Nazi's with anyone on the right. They're socialists. STILL.
it's all meaningless in a public discourse where harmless normies like Kirk get marked as "Nazis". The NSDAP is a historical phenomenon of a century ago, and I think the lolbertarian take of "Nazis" being socialists isn't just imprecise, it doesn't resonate anymore
Charlie Kirk was not dangerous because he said mean things. That was just how his opponents justified their hate.
He was dangerous because he built a pipeline by which he could bring younger Americans into the Conservative fold. And he did so by targeting the proverbial cornerstone of the Leftist power structure, college campuses.
Yes
Totally agree
I've seen some over-reactive practices in response to SOX and the fear it created in the corporate world. Even witnessed a CEO ouster due to less than stellar performance, not fraud. People in finance getting fired for financial fraud shouldn't be open for debate, stating the obvious, I know.
' People in finance getting fired for financial fraud shouldn't be open for debate, stating the obvious, I know.'
Which is why it's such a show of power on the part of the judge and her sorority sister. You get to spit in the face of the President *and* the law.
100%.
Isn't the Supreme Court going to review that post-haste?
She has clearly earned her free market position and any white boy who didnt get that job just doesnt know how to compete!
What’s the percentage of nigresses with college degrees who work for the government in some capacity again?
If you get one at the irs, hang up and call back.
For the second time this season, Norris drove straight onto the grass and blamed Verstappen. Also, it must have been a bit disheartening for Norris for Max to give back the lead and then pass him with a slower car and drive off to win.
yeah, it looked like Max was just toying with him.
Apparently, the Red Bull car was trimmed for minimum drag and downforce and Verstappen outbraked Norris on the pass.
Max is able to intimate Blando at will.
Blessed be the true Judge. Charlie Kirk R.I.P.
Iryna's murder was easily the saddest thing I have seen online.
I will be giving my girls “the talk”. Sentiment might move so far back it wont be controversial.