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MotoAmerica ran at Road Atlanta, where the long back straight has been heavily favoring the Ducs and BMWs of late, this past weekend.

The first Superbike race of the weekend was a wet race and expectations were high for Gagne to perform. While he did finish second it was Cam Beaubier with a surprisingly strong wet race who held the lead from start to end for a 1st place finish. Bobby Fong crashed out from a strong points position which left Herrin to take 3rd place. Sean Dylan Kelly had a late charge on the Suzuki to nearly knock Herrin off the podium and has been looking solid on the new to him motorcycle this season.

Race 2 was in the dry and this time Cameron Beaubier wiped the floor with the field. Bobby Fong finished second, Herrin managed third again, and Gagne looked downright weak as Sean Dylan Kelly eased by him to finish 4th and 3 seconds up the road.

Supersport was a bit of a wet race upset with Scholtz typically strong but finishing all the way down in fifth! Conditions were mixed with the track drying out and he claims the bike was set up too much toward a full wet set up. This allowed PJ Jacobsen to take first, Jake Lewis second, and Ty Scott third. Cam Peterson is running in Supersport this year as well and he finished 4th. My complaint from last year about the old-heads demoted from Superbike crushing the youngsters still largely stands though the youth are starting to pull back into it.

Race 2 for SSP saw Scholtz standing at the top spot well ahead of PJ Jacobsen whose poor start saw him fighting from fifth place on the first lap. After PJ comes Blake Davis in his second supersport year finishing third and close behind Pj. Then comes Ty Scott and Cameron Peterson.

KING OF THE BAGGERS, GREATEST SERIES ON EARTH, was in full wet conditions for race 1. Loris Baz, Frenchman who understands that Bagger racing is the future of the sport, eked out a win over Kyle Wyman. Troy Herfoss, last year's champion, finished third. Rispoli and Lewis both retired with mechanicals, of which there are many in this class.

Race 2 Kyle Wyman, on pole, was asleep at the start and forgot to put his bike into gear. Thankfully, no one slammed into him, however in turn one a high side with Kyle Ohnsorg caught Rocco Lander's bike and left both riders to limp off track and the red flags to come out. Troy Herfoss' motor let go of something on lap 2 of the restart and oiled part of the track. Red flags. THE THIRD TIME AROUND Kyle Wyman pulls half a second per lap on second place finisher Loris Baz. Tyler O'Hara lowsided out of the race; Bradley Smith (?!?) a British test rider for WSBK BMW and who has had seat time in MotoGP finished 3rd. Two other racers also retired due to mechanicals.

WorldSBK is interesting, not so much the Superbike class where Bulega has been dominating (when his bike runs), but the Supersport where the riders are incredibly aggressive and there doesn't seem to be nearly as much dominance or skill/machine gap between riders and bikes.

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crm114's avatar

I'm with Maximum Bob on increasing fuel efficiency; raise the gas tax. Then cut the income tax an offsetting amount. Kill CAFE and the rest of the BS. Everyone gets to drive what they want, but gas usage will go way down.

Obviously this is a bit of an oversimplification, because you need to address externalities before everyone is rolling around in coal powered death wagons, but you get the idea.

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Scott's avatar

The gas tax should be simple- what is the cost to maintain roads. It can float based on the needs of the roads. CAFE needs to die.

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Scott A's avatar

This will result an an increased fuel tax and absolutely zero cuts to the income tax. Europe has insane gas taxes and insane income taxes (and tariffs). Once the government gets their claws in, they never let go.

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Chuck S's avatar

it is worth noting the federal gas tax has not been increased since 1993, and is now worth 45 percent less than it was at that time.

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Scott A's avatar

Any promises to tie it to an income tax decrease will not be honored is all I'm saying.

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Chuck S's avatar

Ah. got it.

any decrease in the income tax is coming for high-earners. it will be as it always has been.

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Scott A's avatar

You can't decrease the 50% of people who pay nothing. The rich guys are still paying 37% while normal people pay 15-20%. Even the carried interest hedge fund guys pay 30% and even I think that rule is bullshit.

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Chuck S's avatar

It is worth noting that during the 1950s and 1960s - a time Trump seems determined to return to, for better or worse - the nation had a truly progressive / fair income tax and the top marginal rate was 91 percent for the highest earners. That dropped to about 28 percent by the end of the 1980s.

I dunno that there's a cause and effect here, but I find it interesting that the time of greatest American prosperity, the greatest expansion of the middle-class, the greatest expansion of American infrastructure, etc. coincided with its fairest tax structure and highest tax rate on its highest earners.

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Henry C.'s avatar

Huh. I never knew it was a flat, fixed number and not a percentage. Peanut butter around the pill to get the dog to eat it.

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Gianni's avatar

Here in the People’s Republic of Washington State the gas tax is scheduled to go up to 55.4 cents per gallon in July.

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Rick T.'s avatar

How do they collect the .4 cents...and why is it not a round amount like 55 or 56 cents?

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Chuck S's avatar

yep... here in California it is 59.6 cents per gallon. it largely funds the construction and maintenance of state highways, roads, and public transit projects.

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Gianni's avatar

We’re number 3 behind you and Alaska.

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crm114's avatar

It would have to be the same bill raising fuel/carbon taxes and cutting income taxes, obviously, or exactly what you are stating would happen.

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gt's avatar

Came here to post exactly this.

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Ice Age's avatar

No, the answer is Drill Baby Drill.

We're sitting on an ocean of recoverable hydrocarbon fuel that's for all practical purposes inexhaustible, so why not use it?

You produce so much fuel that you get it down to 50 cents a gallon, trust me, NOBODY'S gonna care about fuel economy anymore.

Problem solved.

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Scott A's avatar

Remember peak oil when we were going to run out of gas circa 2000. That was fun

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Speed's avatar

was that about when the earth was predicted to cool entirely

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Ice Age's avatar

Yeah, first a new ice age, then a greenhouse effect, CAUSED BY THE SAME THINGS.

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CJinSD's avatar

The solution is always the same. Only the pretense changes.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

“The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.”

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Ataraxis's avatar

We are technically in the warm phase of an ice age. But I didn’t think it was going to rain at my house today, and damned if it did.

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Scott A's avatar

I remember peak oil. The Global warming, wait we mean climate change, scam has been going around since my project on it in 6th or 7th grade social studies 27 years ago

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Ataraxis's avatar

At least we definitely know that EV batteries will become very efficient.

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Ice Age's avatar

Yep, any day now!

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sgeffe's avatar

What’s with all the wet, cool springs in Ohio?! 🤔🙄

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CLN's avatar
May 8Edited

No, that was 1980. There is nothing new under the Sun.

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Chuck S's avatar

US production rose to its highest level ever under Biden. the limiting factor is Big Oil doesn't want the price to fall below a certain level or it becomes unprofitable (in their view) to produce it. Trump said he wanted oil at $50 a barrel. the big producers have said that would bankrupt them.

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Ice Age's avatar

Uh huh. Multinationals said the same thing about keeping middle-class jobs in America.

Sounds like a cop-out.

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Scott A's avatar

I'd bet there is some truth to that. I'd also bet they're exaggerating it.

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Chuck S's avatar

undoubtedly

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-Nate's avatar

I can tell you I'm building a nice nest egg for my grandchildren largely in part by oil stocks.....

-Nate

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Chuck S's avatar

there is certainly some truth to this, but also some basic supply and demand involved and the impact that has on revenue and profits.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Everything i know about oil comes from watching "Landman".

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Scott A's avatar

All oil execs have 18 year old smoking hot daughters who look 28

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Sobro's avatar

Reuters, May 5, 2025:

Oil ends at four-year lows as OPEC+ accelerates output hikes

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/oil-falls-more-than-2bbl-opec-set-accelerate-output-hikes-2025-05-04/

Brent Crude is already below $62/bbl and WTI is at $58/bbl, the lowest since Trump left office. As far as retail fuel prices go, refining capacity is the bottleneck in the US.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

California seems determined to close down their oil refineries. It could cause supply issues for military bases.

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sgeffe's avatar

They’re all a bunch of pacifists out there anyway. Members of this ‘Stack excluded.

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-Nate's avatar

Not hardly .

-Nate

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BKbroiler's avatar

I recall there was once a piece about the 2nd or 3rd gen Lexus LS that the engineers had a prototype that could get around 40mpg. But the market (and some reg's) pushed them to bigger and bigger sizes.

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Chuck S's avatar

that's nothing. GM has a 100 mpg carburetor on a shelf in deep storage...

(I tease)

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BKbroiler's avatar

And current MPGs are kind of fictional IRL anyway.

I spent a long weekend in a new Land Cruiser last month and its IRL real-case (3 people, dog, camping + outdoors gear) MPG was only 2mpg better than the 4.7L V8 in the GX470 with 180k miles that was also with us.

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Scott A's avatar

is that 2mpg 8-10 or mote like 18-20?

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BKbroiler's avatar

The GX - which also had a 2" lift and its roof fully-loaded w a ton of drag - got 15.7. The stock LC got 18 even.

Getting to the spot in the Catskills was mostly highway, low traffic, 75mph-ish. There was elevation variation once there, and City traffic we had to slog through on the front and back ends. Both were running on regular, and my friend gets closer to 21-22mpg on premium when commuting. He humored us with regular for comparison sake. So, IRL, it seems your MPD(ollar) might be even when the LC is running premium and the GX is on regular (early GX's don't need prem) and the trucks aren't weighed down, and worse for the LC otherwise.

Both trucks have infant-sized gas tanks though. 250 mile real world range on our trip.

FWIW, I guess I should qualify my "fictional MPG" comment above as specific to vehicles where efficiency runs counter to the vehicle type (trucks, SUVS, crossovers, etc.). Most other cars seem to match the EPA estimates if driven without a lead foot. Hell, even our old T&C beats its 26mpg highway EPA when packed for Xmas going to grandma's if I keep it to 70-75.

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Mozzie's avatar

I was able to match the EPA city in an old Odyssey by driving painfully slow on all seasons. Took a lot of effort. Normal driving and winter tires don't come close

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Scott A's avatar

Thats not even bad. I get 21 in the telluride using real gas at 90 mph. I drive fast on road trips

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Donkey Konger's avatar

I always found this funny in my college buddy’s 100-series LC.

He had an unusually low-efficiency example (7-8mpg; tried to take Toyota to lemon law court over it; advised not to by counsel) so his real world range was something like 230 miles. It’s funny in so far as, other than a diesel tow pig, a large SUV is *the vehicle* I would least like to have a small gas tank in

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Ice Age's avatar

Bullshit.

That carburetor's sitting on top of the Ark of the Covenant in that warehouse, right next to the disc with the actual flyaway cost of an F-22 on it.

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Speed's avatar

40 mpg is easy

just make it 7/8ths the size of a miata

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BKbroiler's avatar

If Porsche was doing it, they'd call it the Miata MX-RS-5 Carrera Sport and charge you $55k.

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Scott A's avatar

They'll pull out the ac for another 2k

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BKbroiler's avatar

LOL - no, Scott, it's called the "Performance Pack 2A1 with Weight Reduction" where they thoughtfully delete the floor mats, acoustic glass, power windows, A/C, sound deadening, and stereo for $8,700.

A $2K stand alone option? Pshaw! Get back to your Toyota, sir!

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Scott A's avatar

Brilliant

"Chat gpt can you make this simple concept 300 words"

Porsche marketing has to be thrilled.

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Keith's avatar

I sat in a 2022 Carrera S with a 4 way seat which meant I had to manually slide them. It felt odd.

My macan loaner also has a manually telescoping wheel. Maybe I do not actually want decontenting.

At least Porsche lets me put the wheel in my lap, unlike BMW.

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Speed's avatar

which is almost what they cost in canadian dollars now

an rs miata would be cool (they did similar things in the past)

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April's avatar

Anything at or above 20 mpg on regular I consider good. Shout out to my old '78 Toronado XS. 20 mpg plus from the Olds 403.

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sgeffe's avatar

What in God’s name would an owner of one of those do today if the back window broke?

I wonder if there are specialized glass places that would take a crack at it, so to speak?

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April's avatar

I had a spare one that I stored in the rafters of a friends glass shop. It might still be there?

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BKbroiler's avatar

There are, but - man - it's almost worth buying an extra Toro as a parts car, if you have the room.

An acquaintance spent around $5k replacing the windshield on his W128 cabriolet and that was like 15 years ago.

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Ice Age's avatar

Fashion a new window out of the CLEAR Gorilla Tape?

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Steve Ward's avatar

The ultimate “Hack”!

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BKbroiler's avatar

And that engine will still be running long after the 2nd turbo on the new LC has Death Star'd.

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Speed's avatar

"20 mpg plus from the Olds 403"

how in the hell

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April's avatar

Sympathetic gearing, cam design and MISAR computer controlled timing. Really excellent setup for fuel economy. Anyone who owned a 78 Toronado remarks on the mpg.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I think the people most affected by any gas tax are also the people least likely to have the financial flexibility to offset it via income tax. If you buy gas in May of 2025 and can afford to wait until June of 2026 to see that money back, you're doing better than most.

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Scott A's avatar

Tariffs hurt poor people, let’s raise the gas tax! It’s all a bit tiresome but i did probably get over people being inconsistent. Lets remove the social security cap snd raise income taxes 14.65% buy a 10% tariff on a yacht is too much. My biggest expense by far is income taxes. Like “more than a car “ followed by self employment taxes, then property taxes. Tariffs don’t move the needle. And i can do my best to avoid them

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Ark-med's avatar

"Self employment penalty"

fixed it for ya

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-Nate's avatar

I'd like to post my dismay that you don't think coal powered death wagons are a good thing .

America was made great by foolish ideas like that as they stirred much effort to come up with better alternatives .

-Nate

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Scott's avatar

Tuder’s over MSRP? What is the world coming to.

Is the Larry Webster listed a (former?) auto journo (C&D as I recall).

The entire EV scheme is more interesting when you consider who controls the power. At least benzine is a free market product. The government can turn off your power, in many places, at will.

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Chairworthiness's avatar

(Automotive Lifestyle Brands™ hardest hit)

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Upscale ones doubly so!

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Amelius Moss's avatar

Also the Larry Webster who informed our chief scribe via Zoom or some other such thing that his position with the insurance company had become untenable making the new Reinmaster's victory particularly delicious.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I can no longer resent him for not standing up for me the way I always stood up for my people. Having odd principles like that is why I dont own a Ferrari, I guess.

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Scott A's avatar

Not the two phaetons, 80k in guitars, 100k in watches, 2k steak dinners at ruths chris, the ketel one, 50k a year in racing. Principles…. Im giving you shit and think you do have good principles but youd spend the money long before you would buy a Ferrari.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I turned down a lot of $28k Testarossas in my thirties. Both the worst and smartest thing I ever did.

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Scott A's avatar

The first ferrari i ever saw. That wouldve been a 128k testarossa pretty quickly.

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Ataraxis's avatar

That’s the only modern Ferrari I like, just for its outlandishness.

Speaking of outlandish, check out this 17k mile Fleetwood Brougham Talisman! https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-cadillac-fleetwood-brougham-8/

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Scott A's avatar

Everytime insee a ferrari, i am impressed. I doubt id jump on that gravy train even if i could but they are handsome cars. I cant same the same about lambos. I did love aston martins

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sgeffe's avatar

“Mr. Klockau, please pick up the white courtesy phone in the steakhouse lobby!”

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bluebarchetta's avatar

I really have no idea why anyone would drop $350k on a Celestiq when you can still find proper classic Cadillac land yachts in showroom condition for <$50k. But I'm a flyover-country hick; what do I know.

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BKbroiler's avatar

I'd only want it in Cocaine White with passenger mirror delete (aka Sonny Crockett Edition)

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Obviously

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redlineblue's avatar

I’m having so much fun Right Now picturing your interactions with the special blend of onanism, egotism, and extortion that is Ferrari-world.

You could at least *try* to buy one, at the dealer. Harambe would laugh his ass off.

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Ice Age's avatar

Ten points for using "onanism!"

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redlineblue's avatar

At that price point no way are they jerk-offs, amirite?

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Ice Age's avatar

"Amirite?"

Is that Japanese?

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Steve Ward's avatar

That would be an awesome story: “My attempts to purchase a Ferrari ….”

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bluebarchetta's avatar

There's got to be an "Onan the Barbarian" joke here, but I've got nothing.

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Speed's avatar

aristotle onansis

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Hex168's avatar

I knew someone would give you a hand!

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Keith's avatar

I suspect they have a resale value crash brewing that could spell trouble for them.

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Ataraxis's avatar

But he owns an ugly Ferrari, which is missing the point of owning a Ferrari. His Ferrari has Fiat X 1/9 vibes, but the Fiat is much better looking. Hard to believe Gandini designed the 308GT4.

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Henry C.'s avatar

Maximum height? Bro Dozers hardest hit.

Palpatine 'DO IT' meme goes here.

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Chuck S's avatar

Paging Sherman for his obligatory "men driving trucks who don't need trucks" post

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-Nate's avatar

But, but ;

They're SO _COOL_ ! .

-Nate

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Scott A's avatar

If it would get people out of CUVS and back into sedans, everyone would be better off.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Is a minivan taller than a Phantom?

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Ice Age's avatar

Wipe them out. All of them.

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silentsod's avatar

My high roof passenger van dreams! NOOO!

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Henry C.'s avatar

[Miata owners dancing like so many Ewoks.]

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Amelius Moss's avatar

"The top's down bitch, measure from the door!"

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Ark-med's avatar

If measured from the door, we'll see the resurgence of the Murano CrossCabrio and the LR Evoq 'vert

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Speed's avatar

the slow and underpowered shall inherit the earth

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Donkey Konger's avatar

They have a saying in Texas, I’m told:

“The meek shall inherit the earth -

But not the mineral rights,”

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redlineblue's avatar

My dad used to tell us “The meek shall inherit the earth— when everyone else is done with it.”

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Ice Age's avatar

"By that time Justice finally prevails, Injustice has gotten pretty much everything it wanted."

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sgeffe's avatar

😂😂

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-Nate's avatar

In my dreams they will .

-Nate

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Scott A's avatar

I've gotten my first burn from trump tariffs! I bought my wife a $400 jewelry box for mothers day and 3-4 days after assuring me it would arrive by mothers day I received an email "You will have to pay the tariff when it comes into port" something I'd preferred to have known before ordering a $400 jewelry box I had no idea was made in China because I don't vet the wifes requests. I did what any sane husband would do in this situation, I paid the tariff. Kidding of course, I cancelled that thing quicker than someone who dropped a bad word in 2012 and re-ordered a NIB one on ebay, a company which I had previously sworn off. How is this country going to survive if we can't buy our wives overpriced junk from China?

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Chuck S's avatar

Car audio is about to get bitch-slapped. Most of the gear is made in China. I recently sold a NIB pair of Stereo Integrity 6.5 inch woofers; before listing them on eBay, I checked to see what SI was charging for them - it recently increased its price to $470 from $399. Gotta think another jump is coming.

I'm all for the tariffs if it means the glorious brands of the golden era of car audio that still exist (often in name only) - Rockford-Fosgate, Soundstream, Precision Power - are once again made in the USA.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I would accept a nontrivial number of DEATHS to bring back Fosgate.

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Chuck S's avatar

I'd settle for a genuine Made-in-Arizona reissue of the golden-era Punch series from around 1990-1995. While we're at it, let's bring Soundstream back to California to reprise its absurdly over-engineered Class A and Class AB amplifiers - the ones with the gorgeous blue heatsinks. Oh, and the gorgeous Precision Power Art Series with the graphics by Carolyn Hall Young.

All that old-school gear can be refurbished, which is just one reason it's so much better than modern stuff. I've got an early 90s Soundstream Reference 405 five-channel amplifier that I had overhauled and upgraded to Class A on all but the subwoofer channel. I am not quite crazy enough to find a way of shoehorning it into the Miata.

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Andrew White's avatar

Moog is, I think, still doing stuff here in Asheville.

Imagine a Moog car audio offshoot made in the USA by people who hate you and listen to stuff you've "probably never heard of."

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Chuck S's avatar

one of the guys behind the MoogerFooger and other guitar pedals split to start Asheville Music Tools. His ADG-1 delay is fantastic.

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Ark-med's avatar

I had a pair of those blue 'sinked SS amps in an E36 M3, 20+yrs ago!

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Chuck S's avatar

I was waaaaay late to Soundstream, but I did have an E36 about 25 years ago with an a/d/s amp and a pair of 10s mounted under the rear package tray. as I recall, the OEM cassette deck / CD changer were made by Alpine and pretty good. I never did get around to replacing the door speakers, either.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80s the two things I wanted more than anything were Monica (last name redacted) and a 635 CSi with a full A/D/S system.

I've got a near-mint A/D/S PH15 in the basement alongside that reference 405. Alas, neither will (easily) fit in an ND Miata.

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Ark-med's avatar

The sound system on my ND is by Good Win Racing

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sgeffe's avatar

NHT speakers, anyone?

Martin Logan Acoustics? (The electrostatic speakers.)

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BKbroiler's avatar

My (VERY) old SZ's are still the most neutral speakers I've heard under $1k

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sightline's avatar

Free Mark Levinson!

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Ark-med's avatar

You mean, sneak him out in a crate from his Lexus/Toyota prison in Japan, à le Ghosn?

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Chuck S's avatar

Is he still an independent manufacturer? I thought he was part of the Harmon-Kardon empire now

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Eminence, Weber, and Warehouse still make speakers in the U.S.

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Chuck S's avatar

True. They're excellent, too - I've used Weber and Fat Jimmy (made by Warehouse Guitar Speakers) speakers in my guitar amps. but they don't make car audio speakers.

I know at least a few companies - JL Audio and Stereo Integrity come to mind - make car audio subwoofers in the USA, but I'm not aware of anyone making tweeters, mids, and woofers here.

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Keith's avatar

Phoenix gold, Orion HCCA, MTX.

I remember when these meant something. Now everything is from the same Chinese factory. All that lovely brand equity sold off.

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Chuck S's avatar

Phoenix Gold made some fantastic amps (I had an M25 in an NA Miata) that put out some big numbers for their size, but nothing like Orion gear. The HCCA amps were absolute beasts, yet very musical. Every once in awhile I find myself surfing eBay looking at vintage Orion stuff, but it's all so freaking big!

So much of the best gear was made in Arizona - Phoenix Gold, Rockford-Fosgate, Precision Power, etc. (Orion and JL were in Florida, Soundstream in California.)

And then there were the high-end home audio companies that dabbled in car audio: Nakamichi, Denon and, of course, McIntosh. I discovered about a year ago that Luxman - LUXMAN - made a line car stereo amps. You can find a few of them on eBay, all of them from Japanese audiophiles, and all of them around $2k. They're freaking surfboards in size, so I can't actually use one. But I can dream...

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Keith's avatar

I haven’t had good luck with used amps. I should learn how to repair them or pay someone to do it.

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Chuck S's avatar

there are a few guys who refurbish vintage car audio gear. the biggest concern is the capacitors, which get old and leak. Soundstreams also tend to have at least one or two faulty switches. the other issue is OEM or NOS parts are getting scarce.

Ellensburg Amplifier Repair & Service in Ellensburg, WA did my Precision Power and A/D/S amps. He's quick and very professional. He's a bit picky about what he works on, so check his site and ping him if you have questions.

Eric's Amplifiers in Douglasville, GA did my Soundstream amps. I _think_ he does other brands, but he is a Soundstream fanatic. He also will convert some Class A/B gear to Class A.

I haven't used them, but Desert Audio Specialists in Phoenix does all the cool old-school made-in-USA gear: Rockford-Fosgate, Orion, Precision Power, etc.

As you can tell, I've gone through a few old-school amps. For car audio applications, modern Class D stuff is far smaller, more efficient, runs a hell of a lot cooler, and, in the environment of a car, sounds just as good. The best of them includes built-in DSP, too. But the old-school stuff is just so much cooler...

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JasonS's avatar

I purchased a fairly inexpensive jewelry box for my wife years ago. We have a local guy who makes all sorts of wood crafts and had some nice, but smaller boxes very reasonable. I'm sure you could find someone making them locally. 400 bucks seems alot for a box made in China.

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Scott A's avatar

It’s ridiculous but it’s what she asked for and we can afford it.

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-Nate's avatar

If mama's happy, everyone else is happy .

-Nate

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Seneca Plutarchus's avatar

How embarrassing is it for Red Bull that they put Lawson in the car instead of Tsunoda from the start. Coupled with Ferraris strange, longstanding strategery deficiency might go to show why the Euro Corps aren’t exactly setting the world on fire economically right now.

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CJinSD's avatar

I thought Lawson was pretty decent last season, while also knowing that he was nowhere near ready to be partnered with Max Verstappen.

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Scott A's avatar

I haven't been impressed with Tsunoda. Maybe Max really is that much better than everyone else though.

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Seneca Plutarchus's avatar

Max is better than everyone, but Tsunoda is much, much more competitive in the same car and actually seems like he would be useful had Red Bull been interested in the Constructors’ standings.

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Gianni's avatar

Yuki was running the old floor in Miami so the comparison with Max is difficult.

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CJinSD's avatar

I like Yuki, but I find it hard to believe that the car that Max just finished 4th in is significantly better than the spec that he finished on the podium three times with.

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Gianni's avatar

I think Max is this generation’s Senna, minus the religious/mystical stuff. He could probably put a Sauber on the podium. If he was in the McLaren, he’d probably lap the entire grid except for the other McLaren if Oscar was driving it. Lando would probably pull over and let Max by if he were in the other McLaren.

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Chuck S's avatar

the blue Black Bay Ceramic is just a bit more than $5,500. dunno if the blue gets a premium or if Tudor recently upped the price. I really, really like the new carbon fiber chrono, but not at $7,500.

Despite myself, I do like the pink and turquoise chronos...

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Mozzie's avatar

What does everyone think of car/event watches? Is it tacky or just a bit of fun for the fans?

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Morgan's avatar

Both. I personally think it's tacky, but I like more classic-looking watches. If someone thinks it's cool good for them - have fun and enjoy.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Depends on how they're done. Every tie-in is kind of goofy by definition; can you imagine our serious grandfathers buying ANYTHING that was

"Suchandsuch 'x' Soandso"?

There's also the idea that the two entities are never really of equal merit, so an IMSA guitar by Paul Reed Smith has inherently less value than one without the IMSA branding, and so on.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

I suppose the guitar that PRS made for Ron Fellows to match his special edition Corvette might be worth something, but they only made one of those.

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seatosky's avatar

I went go-karting with Ron Fellows when I was 15

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Who won?

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Tacky

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Tim's avatar

The EV charging restrictions outlined in the first bit testify to what my friends in the power generation business have been saying all along: The grid as it exists here and now is not capable of handling such a dramatic change in the type of energy used to move people and things. It will take years of work and billions in funding to get it from its already precarious state into the kind of condition that would allow for moving the units of energy now burned in oil to be replaced by electrons.

They also note that anytime someone actually wants to do things that improve the grid they are usually immediately hamstrung by various "environmental" concerns that seek to prohibit any attempt to generate more power.

The people proposing these things are not ignorant of either of those factors, leading one to believe that the inEVitable future is really about *control*, and the government rationing out permission to move as yet another way for the wokescolds who infest bureaucracy to have veto power over anything you want to do in life, and all for your own good, you understand.

Remember: Orwell was an optimist.

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Speed's avatar

imagine what would happen if we just built so many nuke plants electricity was damned near free

maybe then evs would make sense

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Ataraxis's avatar

Not making this up, but this is one of the main reasons that the green communists are against nuclear power. They are fearful of what the poors would do with unlimited energy. You cannot hate them enough.

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Scott A's avatar

Imagine the redneck speed boats, cars, and trucks if we had unlimited energy.

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Ataraxis's avatar

Yes!

Chicago could become livable in winter because you could blast the heat outdoors! It would be so warm that the snow would never even reach the ground.

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Scott A's avatar

The last 3 years have been relatively toasty. I didn't shovel once this winter. Of course, I got old and 40 feels cold to me now

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James Burns's avatar

40 is cold

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Ataraxis's avatar

It snowed a bit here in NC for the first time in 3 years.

I have a bunch of Arctic level Chicago winter clothing still in boxes from my move. I throw a light jacket like a windbreaker in my car, but usually just wear a fleece jacket over here. I almost never wear gloves or a winter hat. I’m totally done with cold weather and snow shoveling.

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anatoly arutunoff's avatar

that was mentioned when i was a kid. in newspapers. the idea was the gov't would pay off power companies' stockholders and run the power stations like another branch of the armed services with ultratight security

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Steve Ward's avatar

Yep, that was the thinking in the late '60s - electricity would be close to free. Lots of people installed electric heating in their homes. Yikes, that did not work so well.

If the USNavy can have a standard nuke powerplant, why can't there be a standard, pre-approved, nuke plant for electricity generation? install one in every county.

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Speed's avatar

we had the candu reactors years ago which worked well enough i think

theres also that new marvel microreactor which looks promising especially for very rural areas given that it produces heat and electricity and does not require fuel or produce waste

https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/marvel-microreactor-reaches-final-design-step

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Ice Age's avatar

You're assuming such an effort would be conducted in good faith for its stated purpose, instead of as yet ANOTHER way to separate normal people from their money.

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Sam's avatar

Don't forget that EVs will now also be pulling from the further limited power infrastructure created by all the new data centers everyone is building to run their "AI" LLMs.

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Speed's avatar

we need to dismantle more coal plants to make room

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sgeffe's avatar

God help us!

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Donkey Konger's avatar

True, though it appears that there is not nearly enough copper to make the transition to full or mostly or even 40 or 50% EV… said insincerity revealing the true purpose: bus riding or outright population reduction.

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Your Name's avatar

Yeah Jack called this ages ago with “Fiction: The Blockers”

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Steve Ward's avatar

Did you all see that almost the entire grid in Spain and Portugal went down recently. All I’ve seen re cause is some sort of grid crash that took a bunch of generation off line.

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Speed's avatar

"Aubrey “Drake” Graham, whose $20 million bet at the beginning of the season would have been much better placed on the #81 than on the #4"

drake forever btfo and you love to see it lmao

"the govt can decide when an ev can be charged or discharged into the grid"

imagine coming home at 38% battery then plugging it in for the night and the next morning its at 14% and you cant make it in to work

really incredible stuff

"we allow “AI” to work in the present day with data that, in many cases, has already been corrupted by AI token prediction"

so its shitting where it eats and now its making up stuff moreso than it was in the past

invest another trillion into it

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sgeffe's avatar

Great idea!

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Ice Age's avatar

I get not wanting to be known as "Aubrey," but why would you instead pick a name like "Drake?"

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Speed's avatar

he is a certifiable dork

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Jeff Zahorowski's avatar

I thought he was a certifiable duck.

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Adam's avatar

Always been a big fan of Sir Francis?

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Amelius Moss's avatar

Grandma was a Drake. Maybe he's channeling his inner hillbilly.

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redlineblue's avatar

I assumed it was because of the fruit pies. Are you thinking there’s an even deeper motive?

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Ice Age's avatar

Um...not now?

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JasonS's avatar

0. I've always been against EV subsidies but something is going to have to give on the charging front. I live in a decent sized city and public chargers and availability is abysmal. Even driving to another city 2 hours away can be difficult because there aren't chargers along the way.

1. I was always told that cars are heavier now due to safety. Much of it could simply be that cars are larger.

2. On renewables: it was quite a train wreck in Spain. No one is really surprised who knows anything about electrical infrastructure.

3. Going back to a few weeks ago and discussing American Made goods, Mike Rowe on his latest podcast has the CEO of MKC and American Giant on. (Spotify. Not on YouTube yet).

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gt's avatar

"I was always told that cars are heavier now due to safety. Much of it could simply be that cars are larger"

Between modern rear facing car seats and fatter people, cars have undoubtedly grown in terms of leg/hip room (total passenger room as a whole). Our '90 Civic Wagon had less usable rear legroom than our '07 Fit that replaced it. A modern Civic has more rear legroom than a mid 90s Accord I'm pretty sure. And yes they are notably more rigid/safe and weight definitely went there as well. Throw in all the sound deadening modern cars needs to keep up in the race to vanquish all traces of NVH, then throw on a set of 18" wheels and larger brakes to help all this stop.

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Mozzie's avatar

That and all the convenience features like power seats, combined with extra wiring for all the extra tech on board.

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Ataraxis's avatar

Gotta ask yourself why EVs were pushed so heavily without a corresponding *real* push for charging stations.

Seems to be a business opportunity that the smart investors avoided, even with all the government money sloshing around.

Even more amazing, now that we see how almost all government spending is a grift for the insider class, it’s highly suspicious that the EV charger money was specifically avoided.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

A number of the early charging networks folded. I know someone involved with Blink and he told me that it was all about subsidies and tax incentives.

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Scott A's avatar

A lot of rich people get rich taking risks while gaming the system

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CJinSD's avatar

What are the risks involved in taking government grants without any associated commitment to success?

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Scott A's avatar

You can do below market rate SBA loans but they are recourse loans so there is risk. Have a client who got very wealthy with those.

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Scott A's avatar

Your “betters” are mostly stupid and grifters. The smart money is selling pornography to incels

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Seems to me that until very recently, the smart money was setting up an NGO that appealed to Democratic party interests. They were shoveling billions to virtually non-existent entities.

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Ataraxis's avatar

A true shadow government. Pretty funny that most government conspiracy theories seem to have a basis in fact.

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Speed's avatar

the real money is grifting via ai generated chatbots and women on onlyfans

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Steve Ward's avatar

How do we get into this grift??

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Speed's avatar

get some kind of ai image generator and some editing software and you too can upload fake but believable enough content for retarded simps on onlyfans

just leave your decency and respect for your fellow (if theyre on onlyfans theyre not my fellow) man at the door and say hello to free money

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

It’s already a crowded trade!

OF does NOT allow AI-generated content, but a lot of the messaging is AI-driven.

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Steve Ward's avatar

how do they detect AI content?

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

They have a variety of proprietary tools.

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Speed's avatar

i bet theres a way to fool it

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Scott A's avatar

Guy subscribes to OF thinking he'll talk to a girl She advertises she will talk to him. She, or more likely her business manager, has AI or some dude talk to the guy.

It is the text book definition of fraud.

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sgeffe's avatar

The investors are only fans of that!

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Steve Ward's avatar

because a lot of the people pushing EVs are idiots who have no idea of the charging infrastructure complexities and costs.

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Ice Age's avatar

When are people going to stop giving "The Experts" any credibility?

They're ALWAYS wrong, which is frankly impressive in its own right, but on top of being perpetually in error they lack all humility, not to mention any sense of shame.

Look, we're ALL just winging it. NOBODY knows what the fuck they're doing, especially me. Everything's just Best Guess, and if THAT'S the standard the world works on, so be it.

But the arrogance of never admitting you're wrong, when you're ALWAYS wrong, it what's so off-putting about "The Experts."

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Acd's avatar

Experts say always listen to the experts no matter how wrong they are.

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sgeffe's avatar

Definition of insanity: keep doing the same thing over and over, thinking you’ll eventually get it right!

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Ice Age's avatar

Sounds more like the definition of persistence to me!

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sgeffe's avatar

They’re persistently wrong!

Sounds about right! 😂😂

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Steve Ward's avatar

hey, wait a sec, I'm an "expert". well, in my narrow, specific field, lol

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JasonS's avatar

There are plenty of experts who are right. It's just they don't prop up the current MSM narrative.

There is also an issue of laziness. No one wants to get a second opinion on anything anymore.

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Kevin Baruth's avatar

Congratulations to Mini Danger Girl! Watching her patiently passing 13 other cars was a thing of beauty. MDG is great at everything she tries, and certainly appears to have a bright future racing her car before she goes off to help Elon Musk build space ships. MDG's apple didn't fall very far from Danger Girl's tree.

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Luke Holmes's avatar

Here to second this. She makes it look like she's racing in the wrong class!

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Rick S's avatar

It’s Jack Dothan getting the exit, not has multi 500 cc gp champion dad Mick. Slip of the pen/mind/tongue, I’m sure.

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Morgan's avatar

That's Mick Doohan's kid? I'm not really into F1, but I raced and now follow motorcycle roadracing. Mick was a fucking badass.

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Rick S's avatar

Yes, Jack is Mick's son. The TV coverage has shown grey haired Mick in the paddock. You're right, Mick was a badass during the incredibly difficult 500cc two stroke era, lacking any digital safety nannies: just pure throttle, clutch, and brake control.

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Scott A's avatar

Lol. Jack is kevins son. Everyone knows this!

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Scott A's avatar

Except john denver of course

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I miss my real dad. Thank God he was a country boy.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

I say the same thing when I am back home:

“Thank God I'm a Country Boy!”

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Sorry, old motorcyclist here!

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bluebarchetta's avatar

Congrats to you and to MDG. What a great mix of patience and courage she showed to win that race going away. Even knowing she won, I kept waiting for someone to punt her off the track every time she passed on the outside. Patience and courage. Bravo.

F1: can anyone catch the McLarens?

IndyCar: can anyone catch Alex Palou?

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I'm awfully proud of her. What the video doesnt show is how easy it is to make a mistake despite the relatively low speeds, and how easy it is to get hurt in these conditions.

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Thomas's avatar

I like carbon fiber watch cases, but they often seem like one of the largest money grabs in luxury watches. Surely the plastic resin, a few pieces of chopped carbon, and even the manufacturing process are cheaper than machining stainless steel. Yet the watch is nearly 50% more expensive?

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I think you're paying for the watch manufacturers to develop the capacity. That's why ceramic Omegas cost so much, and why I paid more for a bronze tudor and a ceramic tudor than I'd have paid for steel or even .925 silver (!!) equivalents.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Why would bronze be more expensive? It's easier to machine bronze than steel and it's not like bronze is a new material. After all, it's been around since the, ahem, Bronze Age.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Bronze Tudors aren't bronze. They are an aluminum alloy with bronze, which is why they dont wear much heavier than stainless steel watches.

For whatever reason, it's considered more difficult to work with.

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Thomas's avatar

That alloy is a self-inflicted decision on their part. CuSn8 looks better, anyways, and I am sure it is softer and easier to work with.

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Ataraxis's avatar

Back in the 1910s, Locomobile cars came with bronze or manganese bronze cast crankcases, gearbox casings, and carburetor bodies.

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Speed's avatar

i bet that would look incredible when polished

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Jack Baruth's avatar

They dont want soft, because people will try to warranty the watches for dents.

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Mozzie's avatar

It's also why gold watches are 18k instead of 24.

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Andy's avatar

My IG feed is pushing a CF Seiko for something like $350. Probably not real CF but it looks the same.

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