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Charlie's avatar

I kept waiting for the grabbing of the turkey noozle at the end of the video.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I need the link to that.

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Speed's avatar

LMAO

she either has a good sense of humor or shes no longer his problem

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Neither. They're trapped in their miniscule real estate holdings together because a divorce means they both work at Dollar General and live in studio apartments for the rest of their lives.

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Scott A's avatar

I would take that trade

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Speed's avatar

as would i

at least then you obtain a type of freedom

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Like my friend Luke says, why is divorce so expensive?

Because it's worth it.

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Alternately, either one could throw a Big Mac off a cliff.

Voila.

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-Nate's avatar

LOL ! thanx guys .

FWIW, it's called a "Turkey Wattle" .

She looks far too young to have one .

-Nate

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

When my lawyer asked me why we were getting divorced, I told him my ex was concerned about finances. He said, "You know, if I told you the solution to your financial problems was to take on the expense of a second domicile, you'd say I was crazy. Well, guess what the two of you are doing."

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-Nate's avatar

Last night I kept coming back to this boob's actions, once in my early 20's I lifted the covers, shoved my then new wife down underneath, clamped the covers down and let a nasty one rip .

Not a thing I was proud of, not sure if brad there is childish like I was or 'living a life of danger' =8-) .

In my divorce I got lucky ~ the house was so far underwater she just wanted rid of the debt and so quit claimed it, I still live there and she bought another house later .

-Nate

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Fat Baby Driver's avatar

He puts the husband in animal husbandry.

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jack4x's avatar

What would the modern equivalent of that Ford ad be?

Pretty daring to openly admit your competition makes a better car than you do, even at 5x the price.

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Tom Klockau's avatar

"The 2025 Hyundai Santa Fe! Looks just like a Land Rover--and also has an exploding engine!"

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Are there any Korean vehicles that don't have derivative styling?

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sgeffe's avatar

What the hell’s the thing with the Hyundai Snot-a? It never occurred to me just how 🤮 that thing is until I saw one yesterday!

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Their design language is apparently "willfully ugly."

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Edwin in Tampa's avatar

And failing DCT transmissions! My wife’s 22 Santa Fe (32K miles) went to the local dealer on 11/23/24, who said the trans had failed and needed a replacement.

97 days and one failed repair attempt later (first reman was bad out of the box, wouldn’t accept calibration), IT’S STILL THERE! With no indication from the dealer as to when it will be fixed. Last I heard earlier this month was they were waiting on a second transmission from Hyundai.

That a transmission failed at 32K miles is bad enough. That Hyundai is unable to get a warranty repair done in more than 90 days is inexcusable.

BBB Autoline has accepted our claim, arbitration date is March 7th. Our goal is a forced repurchase.

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Speed's avatar

"we know you cant afford the merc, so heres something you can pretend is almost sorta kinda as good but not really"

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Nplus1's avatar

I don't know that there is a print ad that says so, but it couldn't be more obvious that a C8 ZO6 is for people too scared to go buy a 458. GM employees are on record saying they bought 458s to copy.

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G Jetson's avatar

“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

-- Oscar Wilde

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

It's too bad that second part of that phrase is seldom quoted. The word mediocre is one of my favorite put downs. Saying that someone is not quite average seems to me a greater insult than saying that they're genuinely bad.

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AK47isthetool's avatar

The literary genius who also penned the sobriquet "The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla!" agrees.

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Harry's avatar

Now I want to singerize a Grenada. Waking up the 302, easy.

Getting rid of the leaf spring rear? Any ideas?

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Speed's avatar

stiffen the hell out of the chassis, redo the whole suspension with the best coilovers money can buy, dump a ton of sound deadener in it and redo the interior with best grade leather and walnut. add a hidden sound system if you care about that as well.

granted at this point its basically a lincoln but whatever

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Harry's avatar

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1978/ford/granada/102095940

Never seen one in person, but those seats look nice! Clearly a spot for a manual shifter to go in that console...

Get the stance and wheels right it might even look good

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Steve Ward's avatar

$16k?!? Someone is smoking some serious stuff. Those seat are VINYL! UGH! NO!

The stance is not fixable - those are massive overhangs for a car of its size.

The suspension will need way more than coilovers to cure the nausea inducing sway and lack of feel for the road.

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Speed's avatar

when i say "redo the whole suspension" i really do mean change literally everything as in change the suspension geometry, upper and lower pickup points, spindles, and change to a three or four bar linkage in the rear because all of it is probably terrible and can be improved by an enormous degree

the real hard part with cars like these is figuring out how to enhance ugly things like the rear taillights or instrument panel without making it look like something else entirely

even if you wanted to pull the trigger on all of that the end result is still a grenada but if thats what turns your crank then go for it

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Gianni's avatar

And then you’re still left with a Granada/Monarch…

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MD Streeter's avatar

We're watching our Magnum pi DVDs (original series) and watching the body roll on those 80s cars is hilarious.

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Steve Ward's avatar

The roll on 60's-70's era cars was even worse.

I can still recall inputting a steering wheel rotation and only after some significant time later feeling the car float off in the intended direction. It was easy to get into driver induced oscillations if the steering inputs were applied faster than the car could react.

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Gianni's avatar

Must have fat fingered an extra zero.

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Acd's avatar

My grandmother had a Mercury Monarch--same car as a Granada--with this same console and a floor mounted automatic gear shift. The seats were pretty good from what I remember.

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Gianni's avatar

My step mother had a Monarch coupe. It had a column auto shift. The front wheels were connected to the steering wheel with rubber bands.

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Steve Ward's avatar

I was never a Ford guy. Wasn’t the Granada just a tarted up Fairmont?

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

According to AI, the first gen Granada was actually based on the Falcon. The second gen car, like the Fairmont, was on the Fox platform so at least for those cars there are aftermarket IRS solutions.

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sgeffe's avatar

Second-generation, as Ronnie states.

And for at least one model year, which would have been 1981 or 1982, both the Fairmont (as the Futura) AND that Granada were sold simultaneously!

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I drove a caged Fox Granada at Texas World Speedway. I think i hit a legit 150mph.

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sgeffe's avatar

Was the 5.0 under the hood a little “breathed on,” shall we say? 🏎️

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Just a bit! And, believe it or not, it had a big old four-barrel carb on it.

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Thomas Hank's avatar

Back half it, 4 link + Watts link.

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Gianni's avatar

Man, you guys have some serious rose colored glasses. My dad’s second wife had a ‘80 Monarch Coupe with the 302 that I drove around a bit in high school in 82-83. What a gutless, miserable handling POS. It made dad’s ‘79 Datsun King Cab feel like a Miata in comparison.

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Harry's avatar

possibly because I have never been near a Grenada, and gave (the maintained for years) an R107 (not C) has a father's day present, I do t have rose colored glasses regarding the Merc. The seats were stuffed with horsehair, the wheel was cocked at a jaunty angle for easy ingress, and it too rolled like a fishing trawler in a cross sea.

The Merc only made 240hp, and it was unhappy above 4000 rpm. Other than playing around with some resistors so it likes 93 octane, there wasn't much you could do to a M117.

So, being ignorant of the Ford, I can easily imagine that throwing some bilsteins and a catalog of Mustang parts at it would transform it into a stately European GT.

Remember the episode where Magnum couldn't outrun the bad guys in the Pontiac?

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April's avatar

Test drove a 450 SLC (Euro spec car that came over with someone stationed in Germany), kinda' cool but a Granada Sport Coupe in this current year, would get you as much attention as its Teutonic kissin' cousin and be national debt levels cheaper to use as a daily.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

“Trump said off-the-cuff that “10 million” people might take advantage, which is surely wishful thinking given that perhaps only 15-20 million people outside the United States have the ability to stroke the check and the entire global money supply is only something like $150T, but make no mistake: even getting 35,000 people to join the program would pay our rather considerable Ukraine-war tab, at least the tab to date.”

Why not just hold an auction for a finite number of slots?

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Scott A's avatar

While we are at it offer personal flights on the deportations. Push a communist out of a helicopter for 3k.

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Ron's avatar

Holding out for when they make the offer available for use with domestic communists.

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Scott A's avatar

Bring back huac

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Speed's avatar

modernize and call it huac tuah

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Chuck S's avatar

I actually laughed out loud at this

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Speed's avatar

DEPORT THAT THANG

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Scott A's avatar

Transporting unamericans aboard helicopters

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Speed's avatar

bingo

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Ataraxis's avatar

We could start by making communism illegal.

Then we send the convicted communists to Guantanamo. Just because.

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Scott A's avatar

My biggest gripe is people who think america is an idea and anyone can be an american if they believe in the idea. “Then lets kick out the people who dont!”

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Speed's avatar

"cool, believe in that idea over there"

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Turn Gitmo into a special economic zone.

Like HK, Singapore, Dubai, etc

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Ataraxis's avatar

That sounds good. That would also be a good strategy for chronically economically depressed areas in the states.

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Chuck S's avatar

constitution be damned, huh?

not that I'm any fan of communism, but you start outlawing political ideology, where does it end?

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Speed's avatar

at the barrel of a gun

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

See: A Man For All Seasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg

We give the devil benefit of the law for our own sake.

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Ataraxis's avatar

I just read that in a recent article.

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CJinSD's avatar

We could require any academic discussion of communism to include a body count, the way that communists currently include a land acknowledgement when meeting on US soil.

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Julian's avatar

Had a classmate in college who was also Cuban, but unlike me, he was actually born there and came over at 14 or 15. Was always in fun political science classes when communist theory would come up and he'd chime in on the realities...

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Henry C.'s avatar

World peace, the stars.

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Ataraxis's avatar

Oh you’re right, I just really effing hate communists.

I would be satisfied with every American kid having to take a class yearly from age 10 to 18, and then in college, on the evils of communism. It’s that important, and the least we can do for the 100 million victims in the 20th Century.

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Henry C.'s avatar

They are actively doing the opposite of this.

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bluebarchetta's avatar

My son graduated from a public HS in one of the tonier suburbs of Columbus, OH. For some unfathomable reason the administrators brought in a couple of fat-libs from Kenyon College to teach a "gifted" Social Studies course. Every student got a copy of Howard Zinn's "People's History." I told my son "Everything in that book is communist bullshit. If you don't believe me, give me examples of what you question and we'll research them together."

So in the end, he DID end up taking a class on the evils of communism.

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S2kChris's avatar

My public high school in SE CT had as attendees a significant percentage of the kids of officers on nuclear submarines. Of those, almost all served during or right after the Cold War, so there was very little “yay commies!” Talk or there would have been a lot of angry parents at that school.

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Scott A's avatar

From a constitutional perspective, sure. But from a moral prospective communists should have a harder time finding jobs than nazis who are basically, and rightly, unemployable. We could kick them off twitter like anyone even slightly right of center was in 2020, we could ferret them out and publicly humiliate them and get them fired from their jobs. All stuff that has been done to normal people who might have been recorded on tape singing along to jay z songs in college.

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Tom Klockau's avatar

At 32:31 did they drive off a cliff? :)

I was reminded of Al Bundy. "A fat woman came into the shoe store today..."

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Drunkonunleaded's avatar

That video. I’ve always made assumptions about how those two interact, but wow.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I could see putting up with her if she looked like a model or even the average waffle house waitress but nah

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Scott A's avatar

Putting up with a hot chick who treats you like shit is just as pathetic. A chick who doesnt respect you isnt exactly going to rock your world

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Nplus1's avatar

How could anyone make it past a first date with someone that looks and talks like that woman?

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Speed's avatar

when he knows intrinsically that he literally cannot do any better

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Drunkonunleaded's avatar

Bingo.

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Nplus1's avatar

If he gave up on looks, he could at least pursue kindness, you'd think.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Surveys indicate that average women think average men are not worthy of their interest. Consequently, plenty of average guys will settle for whatever female companionship they can get. Also, a lot of men these days have been raised by single mothers so they expect emotional abuse from females.

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

most hot women aren't pleasant to be around. they are largely vain, self centered, narcissistic, present time oriented creatures due to how they have been treated their entire lives. you date them because they give you social standing and for a nice view when you bust a nut (even though they are typically not good in bed, either). so having a fat woman treat you the way a hot woman does is literally the worst of both worlds and means you have nothing to offer even the worst examples of the model.

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Scott A's avatar

It's a different dynamic when they're into you. Most hot women aren't pleasant to be around because they're radiating bitch shields so strange men don't talk to them. If you're the star of the College football team, or apparently Leonardo DiCaprio hot women are pleasant to be around.

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Drunkonunleaded's avatar

The mask will slip eventually when they think they have you locked down.

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

you're mistaking feigning pliability for an evening with a mark as pleasantness.

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Todd Zuercher's avatar

Excuse my ignorance - is that Fat Brad and his wife?

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

It’s hard to tell w/o a wide angle lens, but yes.

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sgeffe's avatar

Sorry you asked?

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Todd Zuercher's avatar

Nah 😀. Now I have a visual when Jack mentions him.

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MrFixit1599's avatar

Why oh why did you add that at the end. Then I had to go watch it. Now I'm triggered enough to put a gun to my head.

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Fortunately I watched it muted and just read the captions.

Unintentionally hilarious.

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Drunkonunleaded's avatar

You need to play it with audio, their respective tones add so much to the experience. I’ve never witnessed a man be emasculated so quickly.

This is how she must’ve laid down the law with regards to living in that stupid trailer.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

That, or the county health department did.

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MrFixit1599's avatar

And for those of you that think you want to watch it, trust me you do not. I'm just curious why JB watched it. I may have questions.

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Scott A's avatar

My fat neighbors fat girlfriend drives him around. He seems like and ok person but i dont respect him at all.

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Speed's avatar

justified

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Hey I watched faces of death when I was 12 and this barely hits me any harder than that did

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Scott A's avatar

In faces of death, you only die once

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Speed's avatar

i feel like anyone who can drop 5 mil to get a green card can already get one easily and the people who both can and dont are probably russian and chinese businessmen and some drug dealer kingpins

anyway if someone wants to lend me 5 million i can repay it back in about 3800 years

the harley looks interesting but that screamin eagle 131 engine would be tops in the cheapest lightest bike they offer

is anyone going to the detroit autorama, or is that no longer something worth the effort?

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

We can bring you in as an indentured servant!

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Speed's avatar

sounds like a plan

get me outta this place

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Ataraxis's avatar

Might as well start the legal immigration process.

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Ataraxis's avatar

We’ll call it the bronze card. I believe it would be popular.

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Adam's avatar

But we don’t want the Irish

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Genuine LOL

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Speed's avatar

good thing im white then

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AK47isthetool's avatar

Underrated comment.

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Scott A's avatar

If you had that kind of cheddar, why would you want to be? The best part about the USA is everyone relatively does well and dumb people with some drive can make gobs of money. If you already have money, plenty of nice places to live.

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Speed's avatar

exactly

only real reason i can see would be to make even more money in america somehow

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Adam's avatar

The rest of the world is much worse in terms of the government seizing your property and jailing you on a whim and/or exploding into violent civil strife?

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Monaco:

-Tax regime

-Ultra safe

-Ideal weather

-Mountains and sea in close proximity - many lifestyle / hobby options

-Heavily amenitized - shopping, dining, culture, etc.

-Supercar central; great driving roads just outside of Monaco

-F1 race AND Monte Carlo Rally as annual fixtures

-Several good cigar stores

-Excellent networking (and people watching)

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CJinSD's avatar

Five million doesn't get you a spot at the table in Monaco.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

It would if you had $5MM liquid to buy your way into somewhere.

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Julian's avatar

This^

US is a great place to MAKE money, Europe is likely a better spot to have and shelter money. At least thats our long term thought process, but it helps being able to get an EU passport.

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Wyatt LCB's avatar

I bought my discounted Autorama ticket at Oreilly yesterday. It's an annual must-go for me, really gets my mind back into gear for the spring. I'll be meeting my buddy there around 9am Saturday morning and we'll probably walk down to Tommy's Bar for lunch after the show. DM me if you decide to go, I'll try and say hi!

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Ajla's avatar

I’m not super deep into the motorcycle world, so apologies if this is unfair, but I’ve always seen modern Indian vs. Harley less as a Chevy vs. Ford rivalry and more like Indian is just the option for people who want a Harley but don’t want to be associated with Harley. Kind of like those guys that drink craft beers that are brewed to taste like Coors.

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Speed's avatar

sounds about right

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Nplus1's avatar

Have you ever met any Indian owners? They are Nerds.

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G Jetson's avatar

I know a guy in MA with an Indian Scout. He also has a Yama TW200 (as do I), and we ride these little bikes all around the woods and laugh our asses off as we get stuck in the mud or tip em over riding over anything we can.

Despite that, or maybe in addition to that, I think he is a Nerd, yes.

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Scott A's avatar

I kinda miss my tw200 but it needed another 20mph in the midwest

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Nplus1's avatar

Before even finishing reading your comment, I was thinking, "Is he trying to argue that being a TW owner makes him not a nerd?" haha

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G Jetson's avatar

that's where I was headed, and I realized it wouldn't work ... ;-)

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Nplus1's avatar

As a Grom, Metropolitan, and V-Strom owner, I have no room to talk. I'm definitely not judging harshly, but none of these are cool bikes. The average Harley owner thinks the average Indian owner is a bitch.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I have a ZX14R and I think people who own those bikes are lame as shit.

I also have a VStrom and I think people who own those bikes are fun and cool and really doing their own thing in a sport we all love.

I can't decide!

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Chuck S's avatar

I'm sorry, but owning those three machines makes you cool AF, as the kids say, because you clearly don't give one single shit what people think about you.

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Chuck S's avatar

So they're.... BMW riders on V-twins rather than boxer twins?

(Former GS owner here)

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Nplus1's avatar

They are probably a little like BMW owners, yes.

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anatoly arutunoff's avatar

not in 1951!

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Nplus1's avatar

That was a different company and all those people are dead.

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Scott A's avatar

Is brad a drunk? The only time my wife drives is if im drunk and even im not usually drunk at 10am. I drove 14 hours straight from Breckenridge to Chicago and never once thought about the wife driving.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I've met your wife. She is gorgeous and she doesn't tell you what to do. Those are the differences.

Oh, and she gave you a perfect child.

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Scott A's avatar

4! Well maybe 3, the oldest can be an asshole. She takes after dad. Couldve used a son though. Id try again even with 100% guarantee of five daughters but she’s done being preggo.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

You can borrow my son, who currently costs me $398 PER DAY for his flight training.

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Scott A's avatar

In twenty years we can compare notes on 4 weddings vs flight training.

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Scott A's avatar

And i am paying for flight training! Indirectly

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S2kChris's avatar

I think for what my subscription cost, the Commander can make Cessna noises while some ground crew member kicks him in the dick.

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MD Streeter's avatar

I was grateful my wife's parents paid for our wedding. Of course, it only set them back the equivalent of $1500...

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Sam's avatar

Hey man, free is free.

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Scott A's avatar

Mine was maybe 5k and my parents paid.

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Ataraxis's avatar

Speaking of flight training, I heard the audio from the Delta flight that aborted its landing at Midway Airport to avoid colliding with the private jet on the runway. The Delta pilot was so freaking calm. All he said to the tower as he powered up was “going around”, then the tower advised him on which altitude to go to. Later he asked the tower “How’d that happen”?

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Steve Ward's avatar

Southwest pilots.

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Ataraxis's avatar

You’re right, thanks

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Years ago I was coming into Detroit and just before the final descent the pilot decided to pull up and go around once. Apparently, I was one of the few people that noticed it wasn't a usual landing and as I left the plane I asked the pilot, "Why did you go around?" He replied, "There was a truck on the runway."

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MaintenanceCosts's avatar

There are really just two traits that make for great commercial pilots:

(1) absolute cool under pressure, and

(2) extreme attention to, and patience for, tiny details.

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

that was my first thought as well. 16 hours from kansas to SLC and back in like five days and not once did i consider giving my wife the wheel. sometimes ill be six deep in the passenger seat thinking "fuck man i could've done better than this!"

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

i really like the metrics chosen to compare the grenada sport to the SLC. hp, tq, trap speed, 1/4 mile, 0-60? hell no! we're talking WHEELBASE. we're talking DISPLACEMENT. we're talking GEAR RATIOS. i miss the personal luxury coupe and i never even lived through the era. we basically only have 2 these days and they are both a lexus (soon to be replaced by one singular model)

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Gotta have a wheelbase-competitive car!

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

either the average PLC buyer in 1973 was far more sophisticated than buyers today, or the metric cherry picking was outrageous even for the time

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Julian's avatar

I feel like pre-90s/00s buyers had different options and expectations, then the Euros came along and everything "luxury" had to be performance oriented too. Sport/Autobahn became associated with "high end" so here we are, just look at Cadillac.

The irony is for all of these brands the most traditional cruiser-type vehicles (SUVs) are all the biggest sellers.

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Rick S's avatar

So the guy in the video is named Brad. He appears to be fat. My god, is that the world famous Fat Brad?

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Speed's avatar

nah thats thin bill, his cousin

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Less Fat Martin? 🤣

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Speed's avatar

trim phillip

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Tom Klockau's avatar

Zaftig Zach

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

To clarify, zaftig literally means "juicy". It originally didn't mean fat, it meant a woman who was big but still shaped like a woman, not a NFL offensive lineman. Think Lanie Kazan.

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S2kChris's avatar

Like Mad Men-era Christina Hendricks.

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G Jetson's avatar

Other than here, I'm not sure where I'd hear about new motorcycles being marketed, but nothing new that I hear about interests me much.

On the other hand, there are so many used (not necessarily old) motorcycles that I want to know more about that I can't keep track.

Between the cost of NEW (in both cars and bikes) and the "exciting new" features that I don't care about, I can't really imagine what it would take to get me to ever buy new again.

But I sure as shit don't need to. The used market gets better and better the more I look at it. Deals aplenty for everyone! Huzzah!

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gt's avatar

Ditto. No new cars or motorcycles are remotely of interest to me when I’ve got like 4 decades of older cars and bikes that I aspire to.

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silentsod's avatar

I'm still thinking about a Tracer 9 to sub out for my can't-find-critical-parts 30yo ST1100.

I'll probably check out the new Honda, turns out the AT seat is lower than I thought so I guess I could book a ride for an analogous experience.

Sportster S is not attractive, yes, better motor than the FTR but everything else was worse for me.

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gt's avatar

I see 20k mile 2015ish FJ09s in the $5k range somewhat regularly these days. My buddy swears by his. Yamaha builds rock solid stuff plain and simple. Motorcycle depreciation is still such that I could almost never, ever come up with a scenario where buying new makes any kind of sense. Unless you bought a Tenere 700 for MSRP during Covid maybe. Or you're KLR650 shopping currently (I think you could ride off on a brand new one for like $5k OTD, it's crazy).

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silentsod's avatar

The new KLRs flooded the market which was nuts given how little changed from the old KLR.

Used prices are better now, though, and we'll see if that trend continues.

Given how many little things were wrong on the ST new also has the advantage of being less likely to surprise and warrantied.

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gt's avatar

I think the latest KLR shot itself in the foot with its ABS and EFI. The "strength" of the old in (in addition to being cheap) was its bare bones simplicity. Now the mighty DR650 stands alone (and would be my choice in this category of bikes).

lightly used 5-10 year old jap bike =/= a 35 year old ST1100. I think you could buy a 1st gen early 00s FJR and not have anywhere as close to the number of fiddly issues you've had with the ST.

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Nplus1's avatar

Anything dirt oriented is probably a better buy new. And if you buy a KLR or Tenere then don't use it off-road, it'll basically never depreciate.

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gt's avatar

In my experience it hasn't been very hard to find older used KLRs and DRs that have simply been used as commuters on road, for very good prices. Granted, clean stock road-ridden gen 1 KLRs seem to have thinned out quite a bit since I bought my '99 with under 20k miles for $1900 back in 2012. I bought my very slightly scuffed '08 KLR with just 1500 miles on it for $2200 two winters ago, just needed the carb put back on and a new battery (and some fresh tires). But yeah I agree, I'd rather not buy some guy's well-worn TAT-ridden machine even if it has all the "farkles" in the world.

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Nplus1's avatar

Remember the Adventure Sports ES is now the lower seat height. Don't try the base off-road model then rule it out.

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Acd's avatar

I don't know a whole lot about motorcycles but it seems like you can get a hell of a cool used motorcycle for not a lot of money compared to the cost of any car.

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Nplus1's avatar

$5k gets you a totally decent bike from many brands. $10k gets you a low mileage 5 year old Ducati, BMW, Aprilia, etc. Basically anything you want.

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"If you ever want to feel grateful for your life, no matter what it’s like or what’s happening in it, watch this video starting at 31:52 and ending at 32:30. Don’t thank me, making my subscribers feel good is just part of the service we provide here at ACF."

I suppose that, for some people at least, it's better than beating off.

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Scott A's avatar

A fleshlight is $80.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

These were on display at the SPAH harmonica convention. More than a couple of people mentioned their resemblance to the Fleshlight. https://www.seydel1847.de/disinfection

Today I found out that the Autoblow uses the same 8mm lead screw that is used on my 3D printers.

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S2kChris's avatar

I have a very attractive wife who will enthusiastically engage in bed 95% of the times I ask, and I still just want to beat off sometimes. Not a lot, but occasionally. It’s a lot less work, for one.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

I'm divorced, live alone and the woman I care about happens to be previously engaged, literally, and there are boundaries we won't traverse as long as her situation is what it is. Self-gratification would normally be the go-to option. However, a couple of months ago I had a bout of the norovirus, wherein I was either sweating in bed or sitting on the can passing nothing but fluids. Not as bad as cholera or c. diff but it's taken about two months for my gut fauna to get back to normal. It was one of the few times in my adult life that I've had no libido at all, wasn't even worth a few tugs. After I started to recover I figured that if I could do without it for a few days, I could mostly do without it. Can't say that I've been completely master of my domain, but I'm pretty sure that I haven't watched more than a couple of minutes of porn in the last 10 weeks.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I think this is good news!

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sightline's avatar

Hm, am I lucky my bid didn't make reserve? Or should I work something out with the seller? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2007-bmw-m6-coupe-30/

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Nplus1's avatar

Are you cool with spending whatever it takes to maintain? It's a really cool car. Four accidents is scary but it still looks nice. Did you/can you go look at it in person?

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Scott A's avatar

Do not buy a 2007 bmw for 7k let alone 30k.

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Scott A's avatar

Says the man who previously said “i will never sell my 2007 BMW!”

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sightline's avatar

You are talking to a man who dailied a 91 850i during COVID. I am a masochist.

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Scott A's avatar

Those were gorgeous

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Chuck S's avatar

I have the very highest respect for you, both for the masochism and because that is _still_ an absolutely gorgeous car.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Go on....

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sightline's avatar

It was an ill-considered birthday present to myself and through a series of coincidences (lease return, wife's car getting totaled, etc) it was my only car right as Covid hit so I had to stuff my two young children in the back.

Sure, I had to hand-disassemble and rebuild the electronic throttle bodies because BMW decided to make them sealed and discontinue them. Sure, I had to send the front suspension to Poland to be rebuilt because there's only one guy on the planet who can work on them because BMW decided to make them sealed and discontinue them.

It was actually "reliable", though. Started every time. And Jesus it was beautiful to look at. Only car I ever owned I would stare at in my driveway.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

I used to ride my bmx bike 18 miles round trip on some really questionable roads just to LOOK at the 850i.

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Steve Ward's avatar

Ah, the BMW coupe with very small nostrils. I used to see one parked around here.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Only 4 collisions and a powertrain arrangement they never wanted to build, you'd have been fine!

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sightline's avatar

Look I'm searching for a bad idea, so I'm open to suggestions and have the means to fund them

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SajivW's avatar

You sir, need an Alfa Romeo in your life!

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Chuck S's avatar

this is the correct answer.

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Scott A's avatar

A woman is more fun than a bmw and will cost you more!

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Speed's avatar

harder to lock them up for the winter however

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Scott A's avatar

Lack of effort

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Steve Ward's avatar

TVR

Maserati Biturbo

Jag V12

Wooden boat

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Chuck S's avatar

Any 90s Ducati.

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sightline's avatar

Friend, it is like you read my mind because the other thing I'm looking for is a 916/96/98

No I'm not having a midlife crisis.

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Leon Clark's avatar

I have two 2000 996's that I might part with. Jack could probably give you my email if you want.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Particularly if you have wooden boats that haven’t touched the water in 20+ years.

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Dan's avatar

The first person to successfully integrate an S85 and DCT is going to get rich converting them

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

do yourself a favor and buy any S55 or S58 equipped car instead. i've driven an M6 of this gen extensively and the motor is intoxicating but it reminded me a lot of being on a large boat in the sense that - man is it impressive, look everyone is looking at me, goddamn am i happy i dont have to pay to maintain this thing...

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sightline's avatar

Yeah I'm looking for a large, fast manual GT. The newer F13 M6 would fit the bill, too. Weirdly the latest M3 is about the size of the old bangle 6-series.

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SBO-very online guy's avatar

yeah, a G chassis M4 would probably have what you are looking for as long as you are OK with the aesthetics. I stay away from TT V8 BMWs like a hooker with herpes

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Sam's avatar

What a thirst trap of a car, you're a better man than me for even bidding.

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Nplus1's avatar

I have test ridden FTRs several times since they came out. I always enjoyed them. It was the best bike Indian made, in my opinion. I'm not a super aggressive rider, so the power it produced was plenty to me. I love the engine sound and I fit the bike pretty well. I had to restrain myself from not buying one. There are always deals on new ones, although they still depreciate a lot from those reduced prices. It's not a practical bike. They do run hot. Who knows whether electronics glitches will cripple all of them out of warranty. Still, compare the level of design on these to the horrific Yamaha MTs.

If the price is right on the Hornet 750, this won't matter, but that looks like a Thai Honda to me. I find the NT1100 to be strangely desirable. If I had to replace my V-Strom, it would be a leading candidate. They have to keep the price reasonable, else, as a Honda fan, I'd try to find a way to fit on an Africa Twin or hunt down a used Gold Wing for a comparable cost. Maybe they'll flood the market and I'll be able to grab an NT for $4k off in two years.

The third Honda that was announced recently is the CB1000 SP. That's a killer bike in the UK because it's basically the same price as all the bikes a class under but has 150+ hp and Ohlins suspension. The rumor is that it will be severely neutered for the US (noise restrictions, perhaps?) and will cost as much as an MT-10. That would make it DOA.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

At 11,999, would you buy the discount FTR or something else entirely?

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Scott A's avatar

Do you know how many nice shotguns uou can get for 12k? 4.85

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Steve Ward's avatar

Single or double barrel?

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S2kChris's avatar

Are there ‘nice’ single barrel shotguns? I vote no.

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Scott A's avatar

I spent 2500 last year on both. The over under is prettier. The semi auto shoots better

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Nplus1's avatar

How about how many PRS private stock guitars? Almost one!

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Nplus1's avatar

Do you mean as a hypothetical buyer or personally? I imagine somebody shopping a Street Triple RS or MT-09 SP with that sort of money. I’d absolutely recommend buying the FTR over those.

Myself, I’ve realized that I don’t have a use case for a bike with no storage.

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Boom's avatar

I absolutely cross shopped those 3 bikes, and I'd still rate the other two SLIGHTLY higher - because I care about the performance a TINY bit more.

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Nplus1's avatar

Fair. The extra weight doesn’t bother me. I prefer V twins. FTR looks way better. Made in America vs Thailand for the Triumph. My brother’s Street Triple needed a cam chain tensioner at 5k miles. The dipstick broke. I also had to fix a coolant leak for him. Oil filters are $20+ dollars. It’s fun but not super high quality.

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Boom's avatar

The extra weight is just unacceptable to me as a technical 'aspiring to mediocrity'. The engineer in me cannot accept someone throwing something over the wall that is ordinary, AND charging a premium for it. It's not that I need the nimblest bike to carve up some switchbacks or something.

What year was your brother's bike?

I'm not buying the whole 'made in Thailand is inferior' thing, but I can't deny any lived experience. Separate rant for a different day.

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Nplus1's avatar

2014 but it’s been babied. I own a Thai made bike. I’m not opposed to it totally but I’ll take American, all else equal. It’s outrageous that triumph will charge you $25k for a bike made in a place where the average income is closer to $3k a year.

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silentsod's avatar

The FTR sounds proper VTwin unlike the muted Sportster S.

It was a comfy bike and I'd seriously consider it if I weren't now addicted to bags/limited to one bike.

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Dannyp's avatar

I'd be tempted to look at 3 cylinder Triumphs.

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Ron's avatar

That video appears to be someone's mashup of One Lap of America and a reality tv show...which is the most nauseating idea I've ever imagined.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Don't forget it has fat people

Not like OLOA doesn't.

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