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In the records of ACF, there are standard talking points upon which everyone agrees.

Namely, we despise the face that no one makes any big coupes or sedans anymore.

We also hate that everything is an EV, and everything that isn't is expensive as shit for seemingly no reason.

What if there was a cure for this? What if you could march down to your local dealer and get a two door the length (and nearly weight...) of a Yukon with 550hp, standard AWD, and the ability to run an 11 second 1/4 mile for $45k? On paper, is there a more interesting proposition in 2026?

Here's the rub: Its a new Dodge Charger.

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These things, in gas or electric form, have been impossible to sell. Approximately zero people want the EV (it SUCKS even by EV standards), and the half dozen or so that want the gasser don't want to spend $60k on it.

It has some VERY notable issues. The interior is appalingly low rent. Even the most-touched touch points like the damn shift knob are a hard, flimsy plastic. That's right, they couldn't even be bothered to put a shitty vinyl wrap on the shift knob. In a $60k+ car! It's BAD! And it feels worse than that sounds, somehow!

The haptic contrls for the HVAC also just feel legitimately terrible. To go from the interior in the truly ancient Durango to this is so many steps backwards that it's difficult to wrap one's head around.

It has very good seats, though. Will say that. They are huge and overstuffed. Which helps because of how high the floor is (all the empty space where a battery used to be?), you will be in a weird position while driving.

Perhaps because of its EV-first design, it is also extraordinarily large. Not just in length, which is fun, but in every other dimension too. It's a lot taller than you'd think -- some nifty design tricks hide that -- and so wide as to very nearly require amber marker lights like an F150 Raptor. It's also impossibly heavy. Like 4900 pounds before you sit in it heavy. In my extremely limited seat time, I can say it also drives heavy. There is nothing svelte or nimble about this. It's main function is to Be Large, Be Loud, and trample the road under it into submission.

So what is all that worth? I honestly don't think that for $45k it's a bad car. What else at that price point can do the things and give off the vibes that this does? You'd be the coolest dad at back to school night. And, at this rate, you'll be able to get a Scat Pack under $40k by Christmas!

I'd probably get a Mustang, were it me, though. A GT (possibly even one with the premium package) can also be found discounted into the low-40s. For that, you get a V8, a stick shift, and a generally much more pleasant to drive car. You give up acres of space and practicality though -- even the two door Charger can easily fit four adults plus luggage -- so there's that to consider.

Either way, pour one out for the king of the takeovers. Carlos Tavares has ensured that there will likely never be another like it.

BONUS:

Here's internet personality Cletus McFarland getting 50% off of a new Charger EV Scat Pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ncsD_KGrxQ

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INCOMING FORD CONTENT> YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

A rant by a fellow member at focusst.org. Prompted by Farley's obvious lie that he got rid of Focus and Fusion because they made no money on them: https://fordauthority.com/2026/04/ford-ceo-jim-farley-says-fusion-or-focus-didnt-return-due-to-cost/

HEREWITH THE RANT

Bill ford specifically told farley to never get rid of the mustang. he could do whatever BUT not get rid of the mustang lol.

Sales "plummeted" for small cars from ford and suv sales were going crazy. so why not just get RID OF ALL YOUR SMALLER AFFORDABLE VEHICLES AND FUN HATCHES AND SLEEPERS???? This **** drove me up the wall while honda, toyota were STILL making fun little cars. Yeah they are a little pricey. They are everywhere though. I seen one GR corolla so far here but i see the type r all over the place. hatch and coupe versions.

ANYWHO, I have worked for FORD (not the dealership) for going on 11 years this October. I'm part of the 8k+ men and women who work at the plant that builds the Transit and F-150. The running joke about "don't buy a vehicle that was built on mondays and fridays" is SOME what true lol. LOVE my job and what i do BUT, that place is something else entirely when you get down to how its ran on a daily bases. Yes we have ****bags that work there that cause a lot of issues (who doesn't at their jobs?). Yes we have managers that THINK they know whats better for the plant. Moral in that place is a joke, thats what kills a lot of plants in particular. Look at chicago and detroit right now. more on those two later. MOST of our recall issues are Vendor related. When we launch new model years and they change certain things to cut cost. the **** breaks and all hell breaks loose. I have seen multiple times where top brass managers will OKAY a issue that is causing a stoppage in production for it to later sit outside for months to come back in for repairs that needs to be torn down to fix and put back together again. you know as well as i do when you tear something down and put in back together, its gonna miss stuff or ****s gonna break in the process of putting it back together. I can go on for hours on the little details that piss me off on the regular.

The manager meeting plans with top brass from detroit have been switching like crazy lately. they plan on this to happen, then that thing gets changed to a different plan. so on and so forth. The rumor was that the f-150 was going away in 18-21. That didn't change because we had the best quality. We heard we were getting the king ranch and raptors from detroit. That as far as i know is getting squashed. By 28 which is around the end of our current contract. They have a plan to bring in new product and send our current vehicles to other plants. Makes me a little sad to see that the van i work on daily will get shipped else where. But a new product to tinker with will be pretty awesome. I have heard also that the tariffs are hitting fords pockets hard. which is a good thing in a sense if you really think about it. I want more products to come back to America. Rumor mill is that the everest and maverick are coming to the states. THAT CAN ALL CHANGE lol. Don't be running off to your buddys saying CrazyKenz told me so, so it has to be 100% true.

Chicago has been plagued with really bad quality for years, been hearing a lot of it is gang related outside and within the plant itself. I wouldn't be surprised if they closed that down within the next couple of years tbh.

Detroit has lost millions of dollars due to people smuggling out parts and a bunch of other nefarious **** thats causing a lot of issues up there. That place will never close i feel like. Thats home to ford. We have lost lots of money down here for the same reason. Parts get stolen, trucks get stolen. nobody wants to steal the vans though lol.

Most of what im saying here is that a lot of money is being wasted, stolen or not used efficiently. I also am big on ford has gotten lazy and is not willing to be more competitive. its not just them either. we need more competition so it will drive companies to get off their asses to start coming up with better ideas. I cant think of the actual term right now. DUH, "INNOVATION" LMAO. More competition, more innovation. Compared to what china is doing. it's not looking so hot for us here in the states. That all comes with a price tag that most big companies don't wanna pay for. look where thats gotten us. They would rather higher cheap engineers to save pennies and in return we have nothing but issues. don't even get me started on engineers here... what a joke lol.

anyways, i gotta pick my daughter up from school.

im back lol, real quick. I believe with how everythings being ran, with all the issues we have in the last couple of years. Ford specifically getting rid of their small passenger cars is gonna really hurt them in the future. This whole fad with americans needing bigger, the newest, shiniest thing on the market is gonna drop HARD sooner or later. all the foreign cars still making small cars are just gonna keep making big money on them. This collapse will make ford switch gears right after its happened, not before.

THIS RANT HAS NOT BEEN RECALLED DUE TO SHIT QC

https://www.focusst.org/threads/ford-ceo-jim-farley-says-fusion-focus-didnt-return-due-to-cost-april-2026.178924/?post_id=2802754#post-2802754

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