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Speed's avatar

I've heard of Rollo, but who is Roissy?

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Speed's avatar

I've got that open in a tab somewhere.

It's pretty blackpill/redpill.

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Donkey Konger's avatar

Try not to force it into an ideological framework, if possible.

Try to think of Roissy (earlier heartiste posts) as just raw truth, however painful. Clearpill. "It is what it is."

The pain you may encounter is part of the process of updating priors. You will need to move through this pain and other pains to Get Good

Speed's avatar

I think some of it stems from a conflict between his words and my own personal experiences. By his estimation, I'm an absolute nobody that isn't capable of attracting women. The rest is a lot of strong opinions. I'm not opposed to them, just curious as to where they came from. Still worth noting I suppose.

Jack Baruth's avatar

The most truthful writer who ever lived.

Sir Morris Leyland's avatar

To the extent that it rubbed off on me, it was mostly counterproductive. I don't know that actually being an asshole really helps: a good-looking, wealthy, powerful guy who happens to be an asshole will do better than "Leonard Hofstadter" being himself, but "Leonard Hofstadter" trying to be an asshole is just going to turn off the few normal girls he might have had a chance with.

Some of his glorification of thuggishness can have negative consequences in other areas of life.

And while many men need to take women off a pedestal, if they are as evil as he claims, I would rather be single.

I mostly read his stuff when I was an engineer in a small factory town with no real-life prospects.

Another question is whether his unique contributions were improvments over what he got from other guys (notably "Mystery").

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Speed's avatar

Be your own man! I believe in you!

Donkey Konger's avatar

It's never too late for growth.

Particularly if you moved back to SW Florida!

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Terry Murray's avatar

Two out of three will get you far.

Peter Collins's avatar

Ah, the wisdom of one of the leading thinkers of our times, Mr Meat Loaf!

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Harry's avatar

I was shocked and disappointed in my late 20s when I worked up to deadlifting and squatting fairly serious weights. I didn't look nearly as jacked as I would have hoped.

I should have worked more on my beach muscles.

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A youtube fitness channel I follow estimates at least 50% of even recreational lifters are on gear now.

Can't confirm - I lost motivation during covid and the the wheels really fell off my training plan when my son was born, so its been a while since I've seen the inside of a gym.

I had to Google "gear" in this context to make sure I was on the same page. Is that a recent term?

Speed's avatar

Maybe the trick was a very low bodyfat percentage.

Jack Baruth's avatar

There was a time where i could break a bike chain and pick up an engine by myself. I looked like myself only even more barrel shaped.

David Florida's avatar

Earlier this year I worked my way back to college weight totals at age 59. But most of the definition and size in my upper body had already been gained from a long term chinning and dipping program. I tend towards the Barrel type, too.

Ken's avatar

Same here.

I was always skinny. As a kid, being 6' 1'' 160lbs I thought of it as a curse - especially in Highschool and into early college (now in my 40s I think it's a blessing).

In my late 20s I too got into lifting. I was relatively strong and a healthier weight but was nowhere near as jacked as I thought I should be.

Got married, got a "career", got kids - and fell off lifting. Got it in my head again and decided that by 40 I would be "jacked". So 3 years ago, during Covid I got back to it.

Turning 41 (actually tomorrow) - and while I can put up even more weight than I did in my 20s - including a recent milestone of over 400lbs on *bench, I'm nowhere near as big as I thought I would be. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting The Rock here, but I thought I'd be bigger than Benzos. That shit is juice. So much of this world is fake.

Oh well, it is nice to just feel a lot better and to stave off injuries, plus keep up with the kids more.

*Power-Tec Lever Bench

KoR's avatar

You just need to look like you care about yourself and your own appearance to some degree. Don’t be sloppy.

Speed's avatar

Solid post. Answers questions about where to find and how to keep a wife.

gonna rawdog strangers now thx

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S2kChris's avatar

“We all age into looking like crap.”

But crucially “wits don’t sag”.

Speed's avatar

cant motorboat a sense of humor

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Harry's avatar

It is so unpredictable!

The only real solution is to replicate the machine learning process and experience thousands of them before and after, then draw conclusions.

Speed's avatar

you need to become the ai

silentsod's avatar

It's inspiring at first and then later a bit of a let down

Ice Age's avatar

"Stretch marks haven't ruined our bodies!"

"That's the spirit!"

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Ken's avatar

Shea butter, lots and lots of shea butter lotion.

S2kChris's avatar

“Every woman eventually grows into her tits” - My Dad

Speed's avatar

will marinate on this one for a bit

Colin's avatar

So confused

Mr. Ed's avatar

And every well-endowed woman eventually finds said hooters migrating south for the winter...

Jack Baruth's avatar

I should have listened to mine when he said that.

Ice Age's avatar

Oh, come on!

You know damn well your dad doesn't know shit until you're 40.

Hex168's avatar

Mine have.

Speed's avatar

Will do, thanks for the heads up.

Nolan's avatar

I always treated dating like door knocking when I sold vacuum cleaners.

I was always comfortable asking girls out (in person and online) and I’d usually set up a date every night of the week. Half wouldn’t need a follow up date, and the others would work themselves out over the coming weeks and months. Then I’d repeat.

Improved my social skills and tolerance for rejection. By the time I met my wife (on a sudsy dance floor at the bar during a foam party) she got added to the rotation and quickly rose to the top.

Been with her for 20 years now, married for 16.

Maintaining the relationship has been much more challenging than securing it; can’t really walk away from my fuck ups like I used to.

AK47isthetool's avatar

Old Dirty Bastard, who was known to like it raaaaawwwww, had seven children. From a strictly Darwinian viewpoint his short life was very successful.

Gene's avatar

Having no idea who Old Dirty Bastard was I immediately had to reference everyone's standby Wikipedia to learn said gentleman last performed just around the corner from the site of our own esteemed Host's last performance. Seeing how both personages also have a fondness for Insane Clown Posse I thought I should bring this to everyone's attention.

KoR's avatar

Jack is down with the clown??

AK47isthetool's avatar

I am not sure if he likes them or just likes pointing out that people who could not explain how a simple electric motor works (or build one, an even simpler task) are fond of saying that the line "fucking magnets, how do they work?" is stupid when in fact it is not really known how fucking magnets work.

Jack Baruth's avatar

I can't understand the music but i am fond of Faygo.

Chuck S's avatar

I was literally about to type "I'm reasonably sure he at least likes Faygo."

As for me, I don't understand the music or the community of Juggalos, but I love that they both exist.

John Lock's avatar

Next summer can we do some boxing matches at your compound when we all come for the weekend camping trip for paid subscribers? Like an outdoors version of finer things club.

PS a lot of men seem to try to attract women the way that women try to attract men and wonder why it doesn’t work…like not long ago I told people on dating sites to look at every woman’s profile that you were remotely interested in and to not contact them first because online you have to let the woman chase for the dopamine hit. Then don’t post pictures with just you, women love group pictures for some reason and it d doesn’t scream lives in moms basement. Be unavailable, have hobbies and not seem needy is hard to teach a lot of people.

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Mr. Ed's avatar

“ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE MARRIED”

I can’t emphasize (or like) this enough.

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Speed's avatar

Holy hell, that's really annoying.

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Jack Baruth's avatar

This is the truest thing I've read all day.

PJ King's avatar

Yup.

I'll get to that in my Blue Lightbulb series, many episodes from now. Only up to age three now.

Mr. Ed's avatar

I’m with you 1000%

Harry's avatar

In an environment with that lack of trust I don't know what his obligation to be trustworthy is.

It sounds like she is very confident in her location tracking. I'm turn, he could go anywhere and do anything he wanted, so long as his phone was in a plausible location.

Chuck S's avatar

or asked a friend headed out of town to take it with him...

MrFixit1599's avatar

My wife has a tracker in my suitcase for 2 reasons. #1 she rarely remembers where I am traveling, and I get tired of answering the same question every week in a different city. #2 it's a suitcase filled with some clothes, but mostly tools for work. I prefer not to lose said suitcase, and I'm too lazy to figure out how those tracker things work.

Flashman's avatar

As a counterpoint to these comments, perhaps he’s done something to lose her trust. But it’s probably not.

burgersandbeer's avatar

The fact that read receipts are on by default makes me hate the tech world even more.

Sherman McCoy's avatar

On the contrary, I leave them on for (almost) everyone.

Sometimes, the best response of all is silence, especially if they know you read their most recent missive immediately and concluded that it merited no response.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

I mean it for EVERY relationship lol.

But usually there’s enough of a preview on the Lock Screen that you can tell what the total content will be (and whether it merits immediate response or putting it on ice).

Speed's avatar

subscription fee is $100 but these hands are free of charge

John Lock's avatar

We could build a barn for meetings like we’re Amish?

Speed's avatar

nah i want violence

John Lock's avatar

Box in the barn after it’s built. Dan Peña does this with all his mentees.

Chuck S's avatar

clearly you aren't imagining the violence that can be done with saws and hammers

Chuck S's avatar

I'd be down for building a barn... trouble is, Jack's already got one.

John Lock's avatar

You must live in the city or suburbia, you can’t have too many barns on a farm

Chuck S's avatar

I figured Jack would say much the same, given the Tetris he had to play to get everything into the one he's got.

Jack Baruth's avatar

Yeah let's get another barn up.

Mozzie's avatar

I doubt anyone at my office has heard of Substack. Explaining why my face is bruised is not the kind of small talk I want to be making during coffee refills.

Speed's avatar

thats your cue to make up a badass story about how you got banged up

youll get mad hoes that way

Mozzie's avatar

That may be true, but I don't need a mad wife.

G. K.'s avatar

I tell people my--at this point, subtle--facial scar was a knife fight (“You shoulda seen the other guy.”)

Truth is, I lost a fight with a 2004 Cadillac Deville at the age of 16.

Hex168's avatar

Were you on the inside or the outside?

tinman93's avatar

Don’t explain.

Makes it even more fun.

Sam's avatar

Before games my high school soccer team would have a friendly fight "helmets and gloves" style to avoid unwanted visible dammage as a way to get amped up for the game. We would wear a hockey or lacrosse helmet and gloves. All the same head trauma, probably more, and none of the broken noses, black eyes or split lips.

Jack Baruth's avatar

Yeah why not. My experience suggests that I am a three round fighter at best.

S2kChris's avatar

Thank God I met my wife in college. She told me very early on “you and I are going to get married some day.” And like any red blooded straight male, I looked that pretty blonde in the eye and said “sounds great to me!”

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late 20s but in college

Drunkonunleaded's avatar

I went back to college in my mid/late 20s. Definitely doable.

Full Disclosure: I opted to scale back my social calendar and stay on top of my classes. My objective was a better career, not a wife. Someone with better discipline can probably do both.

Jack Baruth's avatar

You're lucky to have her. She is very pretty and she is also proportioned in a way that doesnt make you look like a Shriner in the clown car. Women like that are vanishingly rare.

Richard Clarke's avatar

I recall Joe Rogan talking about Bezos and he mentioned "he's now with a super hot chick" or words to that effect. Don't see it myself.

Jack Baruth's avatar

Must have been some OTHER chick -- although I'm not surprised Rogan would see her as "hot", he comes from a demographic and experience that equates "hot" with "sex worker".

PJ King's avatar

Ha!

JasonS's avatar

I honestly don't think she looks that bad, especially at 53. I've seen far worse.

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She looks like Caitlyn Jenner if he had a better plastic surgeon so the "super hot chick" was probably ironic.

Harry's avatar

It is possible Bezos could be on the podcast, or overlap socially, or be in a position to do a favor. Rogan is that big now.

Sometimes it is reflexive to say nice things about people in your circle or circle adjacent.

Ice Age's avatar

You'd think with all his money, Bezos could buy an actual fembot.

Speed's avatar

he could buy all of us a fembot

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Speed, I have to say and maybe I need new glasses, I was thinking she looked a lot like Steven Tyler (Aerosmith) not Caitlyn Jenner.

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Sherman McCoy's avatar

God damn it.

You beat me to it.

Ice Nine's avatar

I actually thought the top post picture was a he-she posing with a guy in a cowboy hat. Jack always has ironic type photos at the beginning of the article so it seemed to check out

Sherman McCoy's avatar

It is an homage to an iconic pic of Ralph Lauren and his wife - Ricky - presumably taken in Telluride.

Speed's avatar

Nah, you're on the money.

Ice Age's avatar

They're not that far apart, really.

Jack Baruth's avatar

You're not far off the mark.

dejal's avatar

Go to People magazine about her engagement party. Chris Jenner was there. Of course she was.

Matt's avatar

Jack's caption probably threw me off a bit, but I seriously thought the headline picture was from a country and western themed gay porn. Lady looks like a dude.

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EIGHTEEN NAKED COWBOYS AT RAM RANCH

Ian's avatar

Rogan is a known dumpster pumper and bezos' squeeze looks like a tranny, so, yeah

Ice Age's avatar

Beat me to it!

This is why I don't work in PR.

Richard Clarke's avatar

I have no clue what a dumpster pumper is but it is hilarious. Comments like this are the icing on this site!

PJ King's avatar

I honestly envy your innocence.

PJ King's avatar

To your point, the first I ever head of Rogan was in the '90s when Howard played a clip of his routine, "Hey, ma, we're in the basement, liftin'. Leave us alone." With suitable bleeps to keep the FCC happy.

Google it.

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A couple of not particularly profound thoughts on Lauren. 1) She actually was hot 20 years ago. She looked like she had good enough genes not to have to put her plastic surgeons kids through Harvard to look good in her 50s.

2) She has her helicopter pilots license. And, she owns her own helicopter. Now, I don't know what that really means, but to me, finding a girl with a helicopter license, and a helicopter to go with it, just made her a whole lot more interesting. Adventurous? Maybe? Forgiving of my own automotive excesses? Likely. But definitely more interesting than most women folk out there.

Finally, damn shame about all the plastic surgery.

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Apparently Mr. Sanchez has gone on yacht trips with them... which makes me think that there's more going on than just conversation.

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Mr. Ed's avatar

You’re on a roll tonight. Keep ‘em coming!

Ice Age's avatar

I can't find ANY woman named Lauren hot, because that's my sister's name.

Will's avatar

Plastic surgeons love plastic surgery because once you get it, you need to keep coming back. No one should ever get it unless they really NEED it.

Sir Morris Leyland's avatar

One John Z. DeLorean got very good results.

Will's avatar

Oh you can have fantastic results, just need to keep doing it. March of time kills it all

Matt's avatar

She looks good in the pic in the Vogue article where she's flying the helicopter. Maybe it's because she's relaxed and doing something she likes instead of trying to look 'hot.' I agree that she looks way too fake and plasticky in the others.

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Let's get to what's important here -- I also like the cut of young Mackenzie Scott’s jib, but also current day Mackenzie. She looks better now than she did in the young picture, in my opinion, which is nice, as I am also older than I used to be.

Sanchez creeps me out.

It seems that Jeff Bezos has some perverse desire to give away another half of his fortune, when this upcoming magical union doesn't work out. Odd psychology at work here, as Jack details in the rest of the article, which came after that Mackenzie photo, which distracted me.

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She could have problems, or it could have been "The Rebound."

Ice Age's avatar

Psychos, that's who.

Terry Murray's avatar

I met my wife at an industry conference in Los Angeles in November 1989. When I saw her I knew I had to get to know her and it was more than a hook-up desire. I could tell it was deeper. How often do you meet a beautiful 28 year-old VTAM systems programmer?

We ended up in a long-distance relationship spanning Raleigh, NC and Findlay, OH. This was back in the days when long distance calls cost real money. After my second $800 monthly phone bill we decided we had to get closer together or end it.

We both changed jobs to relocate to Columbus where she had worked before. We have lived in four different states since then. So now I sit here thirty-four years later looking back on the life we have built together. It is based on trust, mutual respect, and communication. We have always made about the same amount of money so there was no resentment there. As I have posted, she is the source of all of the good in my life.

So, what's the moral of this story? You never know where and when you will meet the one. As you said you can put yourself into a position to improve the odds. The main thing is to recognize it when you have it and work hard to keep it.

I said we have built a life. It takes hard work and the willingness to fight through the rough times and the capacity to celebrate the good together.

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This was a true pleasure to read. Thank you.

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I have a friend who is 3 months behind on rent for the barely one bedroom apartment above a pizza place he calls home. He drives around on a suspended license in his 2008 Altima with all four corners smashed but he when he is not attending supervised visits with his son he’s is out taking the pants off some (or maybe all of I don’t know) the hottest young trim in Upstate New York. How he manages to do that with a bank balance lower than his 550 score I’ll never understand but it’s all the evidence I need to dispel any idea that it takes money to fuck hot women.

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my hero

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Jack Baruth's avatar

Ain't that the truth.

Flashman's avatar

One of the major joys I derive from ACF is witnessing an old roué get religion.

Ice Age's avatar

Because he's an utter sociopath with no conscience and no concept of consequences.

Jack Baruth's avatar

My kind of brother!

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Chuck S's avatar

genuinely laughing so hard I'm shaking

Jack Baruth's avatar

You both understood the assignment.

silentsod's avatar

This is clearly supposed to be an open racing thread and MotoGP was a mixed bag this past weekend but the championship remains a close fight between Bagnaia and Martin.

In the sprint race Alex Marquez rocketed away from the pack and Jorge Martin finished 2nd ahead of Bagnaia's third to narrow the points lead to 13 points. A great deal of fighting further down the field and not too much wrecking drama outside of Honda hitting the 50 crashes this year mark. Enea Bastianini finally looked strong in a race after a season plagued by injury and finished 4th in the sprint.

Race day was an early fight between five riders who gradually separated out with big gaps betwixt. Enaea won (!) the race by a large margin over Alex Marquez. A. Marquez, likewise, was ahead of Bagnaia who had passed Martin fairly early and had a massive lead over Martin (who may have had front end feel or grip issues). The championship widened from this race to a yawning gap of 14 points.

2 sprints and 2 races to go mean Martin finishing 1-2 ahead of Bagnaia in all four would win by 2 points. Anything is possible.

Jack Baruth's avatar

Thank you for keeping us at least SLIGHTLY on task here!

Mozzie's avatar

Usually I can guess by how far I've scrolled when a MotoGP recap is about to come up. Somehow this week it caught me by surprise.

Ice Age's avatar

Yeah, "supposed to."

And I'm supposed to be working right now, instead of writing comments on some forum that will no doubt be used as evidence by some revolutionary people's tribunal in ten years.

David Florida's avatar

Maybe. When the time comes, I will take my plan from Giles Corey in Miller's "The Crucible."

Ice Age's avatar

Yeah, he had the biggest stones in the room.

David Florida's avatar

Figuratively and literally?

Aside: what does it say about Miller, that the most sympathetic character gets less than one scene? He wasn't Shaw, is my summary.

Ice Age's avatar

I haven't actually read it since high school.

David Florida's avatar

Me either, as I'm certain that I have gotten from it all the good that I can.

MD Streeter's avatar

Not forum. SECRET SOCIETY.

Ice Age's avatar

I propose we have robes and Ominous Latin Chanting at our First Principles meetings.

MD Streeter's avatar

No flogging, though. I read further up we're going to be boxing, that will be enough.

Ice Age's avatar

The manly art of fisticuffs!

Be sure to wear your handlebar mustache!

MD Streeter's avatar

Oh shit. I better start growing it. If I give it enough time I can get the full Sam Elliott-style broom 'stache!

Jack Baruth's avatar

Can't wait to break my hands AGAIN on all you tough bastards.

Peter Collins's avatar

May as well go down in flames!

Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

"I’m holding up better, which is not a phrase I thought I’d ever use about anyone besides the fellow from Fargo who got put in the woodchipper and possibly Jerry Garcia."

My beard needed a trim and it has more than a touch of grey these days. Looking in the mirror, I said to myself, "Self, you look like Jerry." Then I remembered that I'm 68. Garcia was 53 when he died. He was a man of large appetites.

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guess thats why he got his own flavour of ice cream named after him

Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

His doctor said it wasn't heroin that killed him, which was technically true as he died of a heart attack, the doc said it was the cheeseburgers and lack of self-discipline when he was using.

Sir Morris Leyland's avatar

Perhaps he should have kept kosher!

Speed's avatar

didnt know they made kosher heroin

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doc in england decades ago said heroin users who were just on a maintenance dose (which cost a couple dollars a week in the early '70s) had the same lifespan as non-users

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jc's avatar

It's like those guys who say they're just gonna smoke the heroin. They always end up shooting up

Peter Collins's avatar

99% maybe. I'm the 1%; tried it, very nice, but it obviously comes at the price of the rest of you life. No thanks.

Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

Also, Jerry wasn't doing street heroin like what killed Mike Bloomfield (perhaps an early fentanyl death).

Jack Baruth's avatar

I can't decide if Bloomfield's death was an insane tragedy or the best way of preserving his legacy. The same is sadly true of Jaco.

Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

How much the more so for Jimi Hendrix? Speaking of which, while I'm not thrilled that my son is into metal so hard that I don't consider it music, I am tickled that he agrees with me that that the Eddie Kramer produced First Rays of a New Rising Sun is the best Hendrix album even though Jimi didn't really make it.

Flashman's avatar

Dying tragically young is always a good career move for an artist.

PJ King's avatar

And sued Ben and Jerry, or his handlers did.

Harry's avatar

Since Flavio is a personal hero of mine I'll take that as enough F1 content for a Wed.

In looking forward to a review of Keanu's documentary about Pinky and the Brain, er Button and Brawn.

Drunkonunleaded's avatar

A BGP documentary? I’ve read the book. It’s pretty matter of fact. No real magic aside from right place right time. I’ll watch the doc because that was my favorite season, but I’m not expecting anything exciting.

Joe's avatar

Married before I was self aware, had a child, decided I didn’t want any more children, strictly because if I couldn’t take it anymore, the child support wouldn’t bankrupt me, still married to same person, no romance. Have no idea what a house mom is.....

Life hasn’t been terrible, but if I had it to do over again I would be more discerning.

Erik's avatar

Sorry to hear that, Joe.

Joe's avatar

I have a dog and some cats, no worries

Erik's avatar

Yeah, I had a great dog too. But on the third try I've finally got a great lady in my life. And everything is better.

anatoly arutunoff's avatar

a few years back a billionaire car guy and i wound up at the same 6-person table with karen and his hot young lady. he remembered me but i didn't remember him! wife eventually says he has great taste in young women since he could afford anything. we find out she, besides taking care of him--don't wanna give him away by mentioning his problem--she has some med creds, a multi-engine rating to fly his plane, and is a computer expert--whatever that might mean. now that whole thing is a jackpot as far as i'm concerned!