You and I are parsing this in the same manner. Everywhere and always, she wants YOU to take command. Or so I’ve read.
Okay, I have also lived it, if fifteen years of successful marriage are an indication. I’ll say that it helps if your spouse has goals that you can get behind.
Half a lifetime ago I had a girlfriend who was into Dave Mathews Band. I joined her at the concert which was, as you mention, at an outdoor amphitheater. The only other thing I remember about it was we were seated behind a group of lesbians, one of which turned to another and swooned "He's enough to make you go straight."
I am not sure which of the musicians she was referring to but have always assumed it was Dave.
Hey! I've seen all three of these bands. I saw Coldplay at an NYC club in 2001, having never heard them before they started playing. I saw the DMB at Trax in the early '90s, when they played every Thursday night as us cool kids lamented what a waste of Boyd Tinsley the DMB was.
When I saw Blink 182 in 1995 at Nutty Monks in Wilmington, they were the unmentioned opening act for three other bands, the headliner being Seven Seconds. It was pretty clear that Blink 182 was the best of the bunch, and we left not long after Seven Seconds started their disappointing first set. It turned out to be one of my better ideas, as a riot broke out as we left the parking lot, and everyone who stayed went to jail or the hospital. Nutty Monk shuttered forever, or so I've been told.
The Dave Matthews Band has always been awful. Say what you want about Coldplay and its malignant frontman, but they put on a good live show in a converted warehouse space with low ceilings. Dave Matthews? My friends and I put up with the band for a summer, as the women who went to see them at Trax were low hanging fruit.
A late 50s - Early 60s CEO got popped up on a "Kiss Cam" at the concert with a similarly aged woman who was also a senior officer at the company. Holding her from behind and very much coping a feel. Would have been a completely ignored "old people get love too" moment.... Except that when he saw himself on cam he dove out of the picture as fast as he could.
Hearing what a toxic piece of shit he is (surprise surprise) made it extra nice. I could put about 30 people in my “i wish that would happen to them” basket, by name, right now, that i work with/for. And the way he scurried to hide. Ugh. Just THE WORST kind of person. I bet he was looking forward to a lovely night of banging her in a hotel and then sending terse emails about meaningless font/color/alignment errors on slides that were created by people who needed to feed the tiger his meat (in what other form but carefully curated ppt slides - akin to writing picture books for children). Maybe even with a dash of “synergies” via outsourcing to india thrown in. That kiss cam really put a damper on his perfect night. But rest assured his leadership of whatever his bullshit AI company is, is solid as a rock.
That's the funniest ever, he was feeling her up too when the screen lit up. The dude DOVE for the floor, and her assistant was laughing uncontrollably.
It could have been something cooked up by a short seller, but it was so perfect I doubt it.
Total lack of chill was amazing. Stand strong, no one noticed or cares. I did a better job when I got caught in 10th grade receiving an OTPHJ on the Ferris wheel from Maggie while dating Allison. “People said you were all over her” “nah, just my arm across the back of the seat, we were just talking” “oh, OK”
There's definitely some shame to be had here. He's on his way to being worth nine figures and he's messing around with a woman old enough to remember the first Battlestar Galactica?
I was at the River Rave, Foxborough Stadium, 2001. Standing room, I’m like 3 rows from the front. Some genius puts Coldplay between American HiFi and Dropkick Murphy’s. In Massachusetts. Coldplay is bleating along, and a high school kid next to me whips a water bottle at the lead singer. Goes off his forehead.
My roommate went to see them at the height of their fame. I didn't go because I had already dubbed them "elevator music of the future". When he came back, he told me they played "Clocks" for the 2nd time as an unsolicited encore, which gave me a mental image that made me laugh for 5 straight minutes.
That happened in the US too. What I remember about that theater experience was how LOUD the rumble of the spaceships was. The theater I saw it in had set out extra speakers around the stage (old place that was set up for plays and concerts in addition to movies) like they would for a concert. Dialog was all at normal movie volumes, but whenever they switched to a space scene the ship engine rumble would shake the place.
This incident reminded me of the film “Fatal Attraction”, because I remember sitting in the theater thinking “why would you fuck Glenn Close when you have Ann Archer at home?”
Hopefully reality will mimic the film somehow and we get a rabbit in the pot moment.
Back in the 70's I was lucky enough to be sitting outside of a room in which an old family friend was then talking with the VP of Capitol Records (who lived in our neighborhood). I sat there for like an hour, keeping my mouth shut (I was just a teenager) and wow, did I learn things. About contracts, about famous musicians, the Beatles, Springstein, and a whole lot more.
Yeah, they always offer the sucker contract first. So never go without your lawyer. Or tell them you need to show it to your lawyer.
If they balk you shouldn't be talking to them. Capital never balked, but he talked about just how many people, famous people, just couldn't wait to sign on the dotted line and got screwed for life.
I’m running out of clear thoughts after reliving my past, so let’s just go with a list:
0: something something fedoras, shots, unfiltered Camels, and Sinatra on the jukebox; folks from that generation sometimes told me that you can’t really “grow up” until you’ve had your heart broken.
1: Maybe what’s new is that guys are acting like chicks, mouthing their lyrics in an attempt to be understood.
1A: Anyone read that Adam Carolla book, “In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks?” I haven’t, because I sorta fear it’s actually prophecy.
2: Concrete Blonde, ‘Joey.’ If Johnette had written that thirty years earlier, Sinatra and Nelson Riddle’s version would have been a hit as well.
3: That’s enough; now I want a few hours with an old friend and a pint of bourbon, and it’s only Thursday afternoon!
I guess I’m the only one here that has never heard this song before today. Doing the math, though, I realize it came out during that blank time When my son was a baby…
I really like your analysis on this Jack. Please give us more of these whenever the mood strikes.
I’m definitely a Judas Priest fan; but Sabbath is on another level musically.
Priest was the loudest concert I ever attended. It was a couple days before the hearing was all the way back. That was a great show! Powerful, kick ass rock and roll. They lost me with the Screaming for Vengeance album. Almost seemed self parody from then on.
Screaming for Vengeance is where I got on the Judas Priest train, and for the longest time I didn't wander beyond British Steel, Point of Departure ("Heading Out to the Highway" is a killer tune, even if the video is laughably bad) and Screaming. Turbo and Defenders were ... meh, and nothing since has piqued my interest.
I quit listening to Judas Priest in the 90s and didn't think about them for about 20 years, when I picked up Screaming in a fit of nostalgia. I pretty quickly thought, "What did I see in this?" and put the band aside again.
When Priest released Firepower in 2018, Angry Metal Guy (a fantastic metal reviews site) did a "worst to first" list of every album. Sad Wings of Destiny topped the list, and the write-up piqued my interest, so I bought a copy. Holy hell it's great. That led me to Stained Class, which is equally stellar.
I've still got a soft spot for British Steel - the riffs are epic and the album was instrumental in shaping the 80s metal sound - and I've got a copy of Screaming, but it's Sad Wings and Stained Class that I return to.
As to Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master of Reality, and Sabotage provide my fill of the Ozzy era, mostly because I've never ventured much beyond the canonical work. (The first album does nothing for me, though I appreciate its significance.) I like Heaven and Hell a lot (Dio was a fantastic singer, which makes up for the focus on swords and sorcery in his lyrics), but Mob Rules felt like a retread.
A lot of people will scoff at this, but I think Sabbath stands alongside the likes of the Beatles and The Rolling Stones in the rock pantheon simply because of its influence and impact. How many bands are almost universally credited with starting an entirely new genre of music? There are, depending upon who's counting and how they're doing the tallying, some 70 subgeneres of metal. Every one of traces its origin to Black Sabbath.
I’ve always been partial to British Steel and Point of Entry— even though they were panned as too commercial. (The Breaking the Law video is probably worse than Heading out to the Highway, by the way.)
N.I.B. is one of my Sabbath favorites— and it’s on the first album. All the Ozzy albums have some good stuff. Definitely take another listen to Vol. 4. Trust me.
Dio, unbelievable voice. Peak Dio for me will always be Man on the Silver Mountain. Holy shit! The way he belts out “silver”— damn.
I do not scoff at your thoughts regarding Sabbath’s place in music history. Completely agree.
Lord knows I have enough trouble hearing others at my restaurant table WITHOUT the live band making a complete mockery of whatever it is they’re attempting to play!
I think most of us here don't recognize it, this must be the kind of stuff Jack was singing in the shower trying to raise his voice an octave or three.
"It’s possible to be a helpless victim and a predator at the same time." yea, I think I realized that the same time Anthony Bourdain did.
My buddy sent me a video of a panther eating a crocodile or an alligator. It's like that.
Ha! I wrote a whole thing before looking at the comments, of course this one is the first I see.
"He put his hand on hers and silently mouthed Karen’s plea"
oh god bro dont do that what are you doing
nowadays you arent supposed to show that you care at all or something
You and I are parsing this in the same manner. Everywhere and always, she wants YOU to take command. Or so I’ve read.
Okay, I have also lived it, if fifteen years of successful marriage are an indication. I’ll say that it helps if your spouse has goals that you can get behind.
Love Karen O. Her collab with Danger Mouse, Lux Prima, was also very good.
At least Angus presumably wasn’t on a Jumbotron at a Coldplay concert.
imagine cheating on your wife and shes the same age
*work* wife!
That was the most loser thing I’ve seen in some time!
She looks like frikin’ Skelator in the Jumbotron screen capture.
What? You don't like watching lizards mate?
Going back and reading the PR release on her hiring is extra funny now.
Share that link. My schadenfreude quota is unmet for this quarter. Also: serves him right for going to a coldplay concert. Was Blink182 busy?
He really wanted to see Dave Mathews Band
An outside lawn venue where picnics were held before the concert, where the ants were marching!
Half a lifetime ago I had a girlfriend who was into Dave Mathews Band. I joined her at the concert which was, as you mention, at an outdoor amphitheater. The only other thing I remember about it was we were seated behind a group of lesbians, one of which turned to another and swooned "He's enough to make you go straight."
I am not sure which of the musicians she was referring to but have always assumed it was Dave.
My brother used to describe the album, and song, "Crash", as
"the official music of fat women who get chosen last and fucked at 3am"
Hey! I've seen all three of these bands. I saw Coldplay at an NYC club in 2001, having never heard them before they started playing. I saw the DMB at Trax in the early '90s, when they played every Thursday night as us cool kids lamented what a waste of Boyd Tinsley the DMB was.
When I saw Blink 182 in 1995 at Nutty Monks in Wilmington, they were the unmentioned opening act for three other bands, the headliner being Seven Seconds. It was pretty clear that Blink 182 was the best of the bunch, and we left not long after Seven Seconds started their disappointing first set. It turned out to be one of my better ideas, as a riot broke out as we left the parking lot, and everyone who stayed went to jail or the hospital. Nutty Monk shuttered forever, or so I've been told.
The Dave Matthews Band has always been awful. Say what you want about Coldplay and its malignant frontman, but they put on a good live show in a converted warehouse space with low ceilings. Dave Matthews? My friends and I put up with the band for a summer, as the women who went to see them at Trax were low hanging fruit.
https://nypost.com/2025/07/17/us-news/astronomer-ceo-andy-byron-gushed-about-kristin-cabots-hiring-months-before-getting-caught-on-coldplays-kiss-cam/
much appreciated. In Cabots defense, she did “enrich the work culture.”
What is the reference here? Someone clue me in.
Some ceo got caught at a coldplay concert cheating on his wife
Yes.
If it was a OneRepublic concert, it would’ve been REALLY too late to apologize!
Some more details to paint the scene....
A late 50s - Early 60s CEO got popped up on a "Kiss Cam" at the concert with a similarly aged woman who was also a senior officer at the company. Holding her from behind and very much coping a feel. Would have been a completely ignored "old people get love too" moment.... Except that when he saw himself on cam he dove out of the picture as fast as he could.
she was head of HR!
HR!
Human Resources!
Chief People Officer! Dumbest title ever.
https://nypost.com/2025/07/17/us-news/astronomer-ceo-andy-byron-gushed-about-kristin-cabots-hiring-months-before-getting-caught-on-coldplays-kiss-cam/
Much like calling inmates "clients" as some places like to do. Because the best clients are always brought to your door at gunpoint.
Hearing what a toxic piece of shit he is (surprise surprise) made it extra nice. I could put about 30 people in my “i wish that would happen to them” basket, by name, right now, that i work with/for. And the way he scurried to hide. Ugh. Just THE WORST kind of person. I bet he was looking forward to a lovely night of banging her in a hotel and then sending terse emails about meaningless font/color/alignment errors on slides that were created by people who needed to feed the tiger his meat (in what other form but carefully curated ppt slides - akin to writing picture books for children). Maybe even with a dash of “synergies” via outsourcing to india thrown in. That kiss cam really put a damper on his perfect night. But rest assured his leadership of whatever his bullshit AI company is, is solid as a rock.
now his exwife can have her divorce attorney send him the please fix email
That's the funniest ever, he was feeling her up too when the screen lit up. The dude DOVE for the floor, and her assistant was laughing uncontrollably.
It could have been something cooked up by a short seller, but it was so perfect I doubt it.
Total lack of chill was amazing. Stand strong, no one noticed or cares. I did a better job when I got caught in 10th grade receiving an OTPHJ on the Ferris wheel from Maggie while dating Allison. “People said you were all over her” “nah, just my arm across the back of the seat, we were just talking” “oh, OK”
Chill you are.
Thats because fucksticks like him think they are literally gods gift to humanity level important.
If he hadn't moved he'd have been fine.
I was left wondering if the fellow actually knew shame and guilt or if he just fears discovery in Divorce proceedings.
There's definitely some shame to be had here. He's on his way to being worth nine figures and he's messing around with a woman old enough to remember the first Battlestar Galactica?
But someone in that sordid group likes Coldplay, that's disqualifying by itself IMO.
I was at the River Rave, Foxborough Stadium, 2001. Standing room, I’m like 3 rows from the front. Some genius puts Coldplay between American HiFi and Dropkick Murphy’s. In Massachusetts. Coldplay is bleating along, and a high school kid next to me whips a water bottle at the lead singer. Goes off his forehead.
My roommate went to see them at the height of their fame. I didn't go because I had already dubbed them "elevator music of the future". When he came back, he told me they played "Clocks" for the 2nd time as an unsolicited encore, which gave me a mental image that made me laugh for 5 straight minutes.
In Canada the original BSG pilot was released in theaters as a movie! So, I live in a weird alternate universe where BSG is my Star Wars.
Thats a GREAT universe.
That happened in the US too. What I remember about that theater experience was how LOUD the rumble of the spaceships was. The theater I saw it in had set out extra speakers around the stage (old place that was set up for plays and concerts in addition to movies) like they would for a concert. Dialog was all at normal movie volumes, but whenever they switched to a space scene the ship engine rumble would shake the place.
I think the *real* shame was being spotted at a Coldplay concert
"and he's messing around with a woman old enough to remember the first Battlestar Galactica"
Ouch. That strikes too close to home.
Best thing that ever happened to that company
This incident reminded me of the film “Fatal Attraction”, because I remember sitting in the theater thinking “why would you fuck Glenn Close when you have Ann Archer at home?”
Hopefully reality will mimic the film somehow and we get a rabbit in the pot moment.
The stock will go up due to press
I thought this was something in the post i missed!
Back in the 70's I was lucky enough to be sitting outside of a room in which an old family friend was then talking with the VP of Capitol Records (who lived in our neighborhood). I sat there for like an hour, keeping my mouth shut (I was just a teenager) and wow, did I learn things. About contracts, about famous musicians, the Beatles, Springstein, and a whole lot more.
Yeah, they always offer the sucker contract first. So never go without your lawyer. Or tell them you need to show it to your lawyer.
If they balk you shouldn't be talking to them. Capital never balked, but he talked about just how many people, famous people, just couldn't wait to sign on the dotted line and got screwed for life.
There was a long segment on this on Rogan with Jewel of all people. Really was a very interesting podcast.
I’m running out of clear thoughts after reliving my past, so let’s just go with a list:
0: something something fedoras, shots, unfiltered Camels, and Sinatra on the jukebox; folks from that generation sometimes told me that you can’t really “grow up” until you’ve had your heart broken.
1: Maybe what’s new is that guys are acting like chicks, mouthing their lyrics in an attempt to be understood.
1A: Anyone read that Adam Carolla book, “In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks?” I haven’t, because I sorta fear it’s actually prophecy.
2: Concrete Blonde, ‘Joey.’ If Johnette had written that thirty years earlier, Sinatra and Nelson Riddle’s version would have been a hit as well.
3: That’s enough; now I want a few hours with an old friend and a pint of bourbon, and it’s only Thursday afternoon!
I think the movie Idiocracy is more prophetic.
Tell your friend to bring his own pint.
Lol. With age I have become a complete lightweight, but I might need some tomorrow!
I gotta know what that girl's reaction was.
Was it positive and you left that out to make a point? Or was it neutral/negative, therefore you didn't need to mention it?
She's a reader. Maybe she'll say here!
I assumed you were observing strangers at another table, but if they're known parties I'll take your word for it.
No one in the township is a stranger to me. That's an exaggeration.
That young gentleman needs to harness the POWER OF NEXT. Yes I read it in one day. Amazing.
Did someone say "heads will roll?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTScaFIAtzo
me and the boys when the panzerschokolade starts hitting
I had a buddys whose ex left him for a dude she met on world of warcraft. This was 20 years ago
And anyone who feels on the verge of being un-chosen knows what he wants to say.
Your only hope in this situation is to leave first! Go dark for a bit. She probably won't come around, but she might vs certain death.
Married 38 years, not a fun trip, but the fur babies are loved.
"Now people are getting picked up on LinkedIn" Oh. Dear. God.
God: I gave them free will
Jesus: https://memes.com/m/you-did-what-b_41V7rN8EV
https://ifunny.co/picture/finally-were-home-hope-the-monkeys-didn-t-touch-anything-AJ0IStre9
I genuinely laughed at that
I always wonder where in God’s name people come up with some hilarious memes in response to an Email or text, seemingly at the drop of a hat!
I guess I’m the only one here that has never heard this song before today. Doing the math, though, I realize it came out during that blank time When my son was a baby…
I really like your analysis on this Jack. Please give us more of these whenever the mood strikes.
I have also never heard this song before today.
First time I ever heard it, too.
I was better off.
Think I’ll listen to some Black Sabbath to cleanse the palate. “Snowblind” should do it.
Master of Reality, along with Judas Priest's "Stained Class," established the template for just about every possible genre of metal that followed.
I’m definitely a Judas Priest fan; but Sabbath is on another level musically.
Priest was the loudest concert I ever attended. It was a couple days before the hearing was all the way back. That was a great show! Powerful, kick ass rock and roll. They lost me with the Screaming for Vengeance album. Almost seemed self parody from then on.
Screaming for Vengeance is where I got on the Judas Priest train, and for the longest time I didn't wander beyond British Steel, Point of Departure ("Heading Out to the Highway" is a killer tune, even if the video is laughably bad) and Screaming. Turbo and Defenders were ... meh, and nothing since has piqued my interest.
I quit listening to Judas Priest in the 90s and didn't think about them for about 20 years, when I picked up Screaming in a fit of nostalgia. I pretty quickly thought, "What did I see in this?" and put the band aside again.
When Priest released Firepower in 2018, Angry Metal Guy (a fantastic metal reviews site) did a "worst to first" list of every album. Sad Wings of Destiny topped the list, and the write-up piqued my interest, so I bought a copy. Holy hell it's great. That led me to Stained Class, which is equally stellar.
I've still got a soft spot for British Steel - the riffs are epic and the album was instrumental in shaping the 80s metal sound - and I've got a copy of Screaming, but it's Sad Wings and Stained Class that I return to.
As to Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master of Reality, and Sabotage provide my fill of the Ozzy era, mostly because I've never ventured much beyond the canonical work. (The first album does nothing for me, though I appreciate its significance.) I like Heaven and Hell a lot (Dio was a fantastic singer, which makes up for the focus on swords and sorcery in his lyrics), but Mob Rules felt like a retread.
A lot of people will scoff at this, but I think Sabbath stands alongside the likes of the Beatles and The Rolling Stones in the rock pantheon simply because of its influence and impact. How many bands are almost universally credited with starting an entirely new genre of music? There are, depending upon who's counting and how they're doing the tallying, some 70 subgeneres of metal. Every one of traces its origin to Black Sabbath.
I’ve always been partial to British Steel and Point of Entry— even though they were panned as too commercial. (The Breaking the Law video is probably worse than Heading out to the Highway, by the way.)
N.I.B. is one of my Sabbath favorites— and it’s on the first album. All the Ozzy albums have some good stuff. Definitely take another listen to Vol. 4. Trust me.
Dio, unbelievable voice. Peak Dio for me will always be Man on the Silver Mountain. Holy shit! The way he belts out “silver”— damn.
I do not scoff at your thoughts regarding Sabbath’s place in music history. Completely agree.
I'm a wheel, I'm a wheel / I can roll, I can feel!
I agree... peak Dio right there. I'll add Neon Knights and Rainbow in the Dark.
A funk band out of Austin did a funked up cover album of Sabbath songs called Brown Sabbath. It’s quite good. Snowblind:
https://youtu.be/h0icI4kAHG0?si=qqUzjBAplbPqekwl
If they lost the horns I would be on board.
Then wouldn’t they be just another “tribute” band entertaining boomers at the casino?
Then there is Mac Sabbath:
https://youtu.be/xhFmM0LX-MQ?si=u534ntc5UnTm8yCj
The guitarist, Slayer McCheese cracks me up.
I’m 64, and I despise tribute bands and casinos.
I don’t care for cover bands in general!
Lord knows I have enough trouble hearing others at my restaurant table WITHOUT the live band making a complete mockery of whatever it is they’re attempting to play!
Thanks for sharing, those guys kick ass!
They did an instrumental album of Public Enemy songs that REALLY kicks ass.
I thought this would be about maps and cartophiles.....
Haven't heard of the song but listening to it reminded me of Interpol for some reason.
A bit different situation, but Petty in "American Girl" sang:
And for one desperate moment there
He crept back in her memory
God, it's so painful, something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach
I consider myself relatively in-tune to music, especially of the 00s to the mid teens, and I can say I've never heard this song in my life, el o el.
I think most of us here don't recognize it, this must be the kind of stuff Jack was singing in the shower trying to raise his voice an octave or three.
Lower, you mean.
You've heard my voice!
I hope so.
Ribbit ribbit
“I love a parade!” - Mickey Mouse
professional jordan peterson impersonator