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Sherman McCoy's avatar

Many thoughts:

0 - As a humble, hardscrabble hillbilly myself, I wince at lazy depictions of my Appalachian brethren as lesser than; I am not above poking fun at underdeveloped personal aesthetic sensibilities, but in terms of character, those folks are invariably top drawer.

1 - I believe the impetus behind the upsell was the enhanced profit margin on larger beverage sizes (and fries, to a lesser extent).

2 - I am already a participant in the automated disintermediation of fast food labor markets, as I prefer to place my orders on an app (easier, quicker, there’s usually some incentive to do so).

3 - I recall a McDonald’s at Charles de Gaulle operating on the touch screen only method a few years ago; my father nearly vomited at a McDonald’s near the Galeries Lafayette when a meal for four rang in at nearly $100 (in ~2005).

4 - Didn’t have to click the outlink at the bottom!

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MD Streeter's avatar

Most of these jobs are not jobs that I would have ever considered supporting a family with. Working at McDonald's is fine as a second income for a wife (low-wage female workers were mentioned elsewhere) or for teenagers (everyone has worked or knows someone who has worked in fast food when they were growing up: my girlfriend worked at Burger King, I worked at a video rental store). Up here, the McDonald's has the pretty girls at the counters and the Bumbles at the fryers the God intended. But that's not the way it is anymore, is it? I have my own hot take, but it could go either way based on my feeling at the moment. Corporations absolutely seem run by lizard people who hate us and do everything they can to disenfranchise us. On the other hand, people need to be responsible for themselves and for the work they do. It's really not my fault if you don't find skills to put yourself in a position to get anything better than a job at your local fast food joint. I lean a little towards the former at the moment because for the past few years we've seen the blatant disregard those at the very top have towards us, but it's still a hot take and I don't have perfect information nor the insight necessary to come down solidly on either side. So I'll take the middle path at the moment and say there needs to be more mutual respect going on.

But more than that, I think there's something else entirely going on. Thomas Sowell says the real minimum wage is $0, which leads to teenagers without job opportunities because they're being taken by adults working dead-end McJobs at $15/hour (or no jobs for anyone at all because $15/hour is simply too much for whatever job it may be). But more than that, there are all the other costs involved with children. Ever larger cars to fit car seats for expanding families. Education. The rising cost of food and the shortages of various critical things like formula (that was a thing recently, thanks to our lizard overlords). All the sports and after-school activities our culture demands our kids join, and all the costs involved in those. Specialized equipment for said activities. Clothing. Larger (and more and more unobtainable) housing. I don't think we're going to find a 4-bed, 2-bath house for anywhere near our price range up here. And we can't have a fourth child because then I'd have to go find two different cars with the seats to put them in. So it seems to me that the McAutomation is just another pat of the cultural swing against children and families. I don't know if it's a main idea or just an accident of converging lizard people goals.

To sort of go along with this, for someone (or, increasingly rarely, two people) raising kids and having to work 2 of these awful, low-wage jobs, you end up having to outsource your own child-raising. Someone else is spending all those quality hours with your kids as you toil away. Perhaps someone who buys into what the lizard people are selling...

edited for clarity in second paragraph

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