I concur that if the three crossover Cadillacs had a 3.6 option they would move off the lot a lot quicker and if Cadillac would produce a sedan/ coupe version of each even better. In the mean time there is a 1974 Talisman painted Tera Cotta with Copper interior and a white elk grain vinyl top that really needs to be in my garage.
I cannot stand vinyl tops. I do not know why, and I'm unhappy about it, because they were attached to many admirable vehicles. I can't do it. No vinyl tops, no soft-top convertibles unless the car in question has no more than two seats and no less than eight cylinders, and no two-tone paint jobs which separate at the windowsills.
Landon, unfortunately the Fleetwood Broughams of 1971-1976 had vinyl tops as standard equipment. But they were rust magnets. Two tone stopped working at about 1959 model year. Although the original owner paid Cadillac an extra $800 (in 1976 dollars) to two tone the power done on the hood a complementary color which makes it really stand out.
On You Tube is a great channel called “Canyon Chasers” run by a motorcycle riding instructor.
He posted about his TFT screen failing on his new Ducati.
Guess what? The screen is tied into the entire electrical system of the bike, and the bike will not start without the screen.
Guess what? You can’t replace the screen yourself. Dealer only computer programming.
Guess what? It costs almost as much as the bike itself.
NONE of these vehicles with screens will be worth anything in 20 years.
And the EV’s will be even more obsolete.
I know there are ten year old Teslas out there, but folks will not want to buy old tech, or old batteries with old chemistry.
Also, all of the connectivity features will one day be shut off when the cell network switches to 9G or some such.
Look at all of the first gen Ford Focus Electrics and G-Max’s that had 3G modems. They are all cut off from the grid now because their modems can’t be upgraded to 5G.
There has not been an actual oil dipstick in a Porsche Boxster or Porsche 911 since 2004. Good luck going to a Jiffy Lube and getting a proper oil fill.
Cars have reached the point of no return for anyone who wants to keep one and work on it themselves forever.
I will end up spending a ton of money to keep my old car running. There are zero vehicles for sale today that interest me.
I'm putting a not-insignificant amount of time and money into a 1995 F150 project. Reg cab/Flareside/300 I-6/5-spd. At first it was just me rescuing a cool old truck that was rotting in a yard...
...but now I'm starting to think it could end up being a fairly wise investment... everyone thinks you're a kook for thinking the government will exploit new car technology for control of the public's individual mobility. Then that's exactly what happens and you're a kook for not surrendering to it... a kookmobile is starting to make a lot of sense.
I recently bought a 2023 Odyssey because it still has the good old J-series V6 and a transmission with gears instead of rubber bands and pulleys. After driving it for a few months, I realize I should've bought the nicest GMT400 Suburban I could find. Yes, it would get 14mpg instead of 22, would require more maintenance, and keeping the rust down would be a constant battle, but there's not much that can go wrong with it that I can't fix.
It really is bad. My car is fourteen years old and I honestly don’t know what I’d realistically replace it with. It’s already bigger and heavier than it needs to be, and has more electronic options/equipment than I care to indulge in.
Did you have to charge it? How was efficiency (Kw/mile?)?
I bet the navy blue interior would be nice. As is I hate everything about it except the buttons on the center console. And I’d think that if it had an ice engine.
How about the black wing v8 and the blue interior? I’d consider it. But don’t really like the exterior either.
Or C.) They're stuck with all these gilded golf carts and making them service loaners until they're auctioned or sold as CPO's gets them more money than collecting Floorplan interest in hopes a dumb enough ass comes to fill its seat.
I can confirm. My $382/mo. 2 year lease Lyriq 600e4 ($78k sticker) had almost exactly 2500 miles. It’s an accounting trick to get the lease price low enough for this dumb enough ass to grab one.
Sorry, I meant that it had almost exactly 2500 miles on it already when I leased it. They use them as loaners, then there is an accounting write down they can do at 2500 miles. I get 10,000 miles per year/20,000 miles total. We are likely to go over that, but overage is just 25c per mile!
I had the same impression going from my XTS to a test drive Lyriq. I actually really like how the Lyriq looks. One of the least SUV-like SUVs out there. It really drove nicely. Just two things I wished it had. 1) an extra inch or two of front seat legroom. 2) a 3.6 V6.
Btw, I had my touch screen swapped for an aftermarket unit. Cost less than $200 installed and works better than new.
The other week I heard this REALLY LOUD revving car for a moment.
Then a car cut around me and again REALLY LOUD Revving.
I looked at the car and blinked. It was an EV!!! The guy had put some serious speakers on it, some place, so every time he stepped on the gas everyone would hear this obnoxious noise. On the highway, where we're all doing 70-80 MPH.
You're right, you never mentioned Tesla, my brain filled that in. I remember when Model S's were new on the road, people were having fun with them, silently gunning it. Now they are scared of the battery replacement or the electric bill.
I'll have that same devil advocate empathy for them that we could have over the ebike wheelie kids. He knows what he's missing. I've heard too much about EV's that they are "inevitable, I love not driving in silence, I'll never go back, you won't either". Finally an EV driver inspired by combustion. I bet he would love an electric manual shifter.
Last year built XTS or Continental vs. LS430 as comfortable highway Q-ship cruiser based on total cost of ownership, driving experience and reliability. Discuss.
"Nothing like Paul Niedermeyer going up a 30% grade in a 1960s Microbus he insists has sufficient power"
30%? Hell, when driving my '67 Bus with a 1500 single port up the 4% grade on M14 just west of the downtown Ann Arbor exit, I'd white-knuckle worry about getting rear ended by a semi as I slowed down. For my next Bus I built a 1648 dual port with a street cam, 009 distributor (I can't believe I remembered that after almost 50 years) and a Holley-Weber two barrel. That could run the same hill at 80 mph with no problem.
I drove a Lyriq two years ago and came away impressed. Interior was much improved in comparison to the available Cadillacs over here, which stopped with the CTS (we never officialy got the CT4/CT5 - bummer, as I would have bought a manual CT5 V Blackwing back then). It rode nice, too. But, just like you, I decided to not buy an EV as my everyday car. Period.
good post
shit car
is anyone else wondering if the kerning of "optiq" is messed up or is it supposed to look awful
I just want a frickin new Fleetwood Brougham dammit
Random GM exec: "Make sure the font looks stupid!"
"okay now make the back match the front"
Haha
I concur that if the three crossover Cadillacs had a 3.6 option they would move off the lot a lot quicker and if Cadillac would produce a sedan/ coupe version of each even better. In the mean time there is a 1974 Talisman painted Tera Cotta with Copper interior and a white elk grain vinyl top that really needs to be in my garage.
I cannot stand vinyl tops. I do not know why, and I'm unhappy about it, because they were attached to many admirable vehicles. I can't do it. No vinyl tops, no soft-top convertibles unless the car in question has no more than two seats and no less than eight cylinders, and no two-tone paint jobs which separate at the windowsills.
Landon, unfortunately the Fleetwood Broughams of 1971-1976 had vinyl tops as standard equipment. But they were rust magnets. Two tone stopped working at about 1959 model year. Although the original owner paid Cadillac an extra $800 (in 1976 dollars) to two tone the power done on the hood a complementary color which makes it really stand out.
vinyl tops are awful from every perspecitve
adds weight and drag and makes restoring them a nightmare becuase its never easy and they always rust
also theyre ugly
On You Tube is a great channel called “Canyon Chasers” run by a motorcycle riding instructor.
He posted about his TFT screen failing on his new Ducati.
Guess what? The screen is tied into the entire electrical system of the bike, and the bike will not start without the screen.
Guess what? You can’t replace the screen yourself. Dealer only computer programming.
Guess what? It costs almost as much as the bike itself.
NONE of these vehicles with screens will be worth anything in 20 years.
And the EV’s will be even more obsolete.
I know there are ten year old Teslas out there, but folks will not want to buy old tech, or old batteries with old chemistry.
Also, all of the connectivity features will one day be shut off when the cell network switches to 9G or some such.
Look at all of the first gen Ford Focus Electrics and G-Max’s that had 3G modems. They are all cut off from the grid now because their modems can’t be upgraded to 5G.
There has not been an actual oil dipstick in a Porsche Boxster or Porsche 911 since 2004. Good luck going to a Jiffy Lube and getting a proper oil fill.
Cars have reached the point of no return for anyone who wants to keep one and work on it themselves forever.
I will end up spending a ton of money to keep my old car running. There are zero vehicles for sale today that interest me.
I'm putting a not-insignificant amount of time and money into a 1995 F150 project. Reg cab/Flareside/300 I-6/5-spd. At first it was just me rescuing a cool old truck that was rotting in a yard...
...but now I'm starting to think it could end up being a fairly wise investment... everyone thinks you're a kook for thinking the government will exploit new car technology for control of the public's individual mobility. Then that's exactly what happens and you're a kook for not surrendering to it... a kookmobile is starting to make a lot of sense.
I recently bought a 2023 Odyssey because it still has the good old J-series V6 and a transmission with gears instead of rubber bands and pulleys. After driving it for a few months, I realize I should've bought the nicest GMT400 Suburban I could find. Yes, it would get 14mpg instead of 22, would require more maintenance, and keeping the rust down would be a constant battle, but there's not much that can go wrong with it that I can't fix.
It really is bad. My car is fourteen years old and I honestly don’t know what I’d realistically replace it with. It’s already bigger and heavier than it needs to be, and has more electronic options/equipment than I care to indulge in.
Did you have to charge it? How was efficiency (Kw/mile?)?
I bet the navy blue interior would be nice. As is I hate everything about it except the buttons on the center console. And I’d think that if it had an ice engine.
How about the black wing v8 and the blue interior? I’d consider it. But don’t really like the exterior either.
Nope, no need to recharge it. Only had it a day and a half. Didn't touch it. Fortunately.
Klockau Caves to the Combover! Say it isn't so!!!
Hey, it was free and the air conditioning worked! 🤣
so does your extended warranty include loaners, or are they just nice to you?
Or C.) They're stuck with all these gilded golf carts and making them service loaners until they're auctioned or sold as CPO's gets them more money than collecting Floorplan interest in hopes a dumb enough ass comes to fill its seat.
I can confirm. My $382/mo. 2 year lease Lyriq 600e4 ($78k sticker) had almost exactly 2500 miles. It’s an accounting trick to get the lease price low enough for this dumb enough ass to grab one.
2500 miles per year lease??
Was that advertised? Or a special deal?
Sorry, I meant that it had almost exactly 2500 miles on it already when I leased it. They use them as loaners, then there is an accounting write down they can do at 2500 miles. I get 10,000 miles per year/20,000 miles total. We are likely to go over that, but overage is just 25c per mile!
Steve: maybe a bit of both. I've known the general manager for years
1200 lbs MORE than the XTS! oh my.
I had the same impression going from my XTS to a test drive Lyriq. I actually really like how the Lyriq looks. One of the least SUV-like SUVs out there. It really drove nicely. Just two things I wished it had. 1) an extra inch or two of front seat legroom. 2) a 3.6 V6.
Btw, I had my touch screen swapped for an aftermarket unit. Cost less than $200 installed and works better than new.
I love mine!
What was wrong with the A/C?
Compressor conked. They replaced it and recharged the system.
I was hoping it wasn't a BCM problem. That's always lots of fun to try to solve and only the dealer can program a new BCM.
Dom DeLuise would approve of the title, sir. Well played, and well written.
The other week I heard this REALLY LOUD revving car for a moment.
Then a car cut around me and again REALLY LOUD Revving.
I looked at the car and blinked. It was an EV!!! The guy had put some serious speakers on it, some place, so every time he stepped on the gas everyone would hear this obnoxious noise. On the highway, where we're all doing 70-80 MPH.
Talk about obnoxious.
Send him a card saying, "sorry about your small weenie."
I think this man's Tesla can't contain his weenie, and is a poor representation of it. (Calling Sherman)
Thank you. I almost shot coffee out my nose.
It wasn't a Tesla.
You're right, you never mentioned Tesla, my brain filled that in. I remember when Model S's were new on the road, people were having fun with them, silently gunning it. Now they are scared of the battery replacement or the electric bill.
I'll have that same devil advocate empathy for them that we could have over the ebike wheelie kids. He knows what he's missing. I've heard too much about EV's that they are "inevitable, I love not driving in silence, I'll never go back, you won't either". Finally an EV driver inspired by combustion. I bet he would love an electric manual shifter.
This is me, absolutely not caring about any Cadillac with a name ending in "Q".
McLaughlin has a pretty nice '15 CTS at the moment, good price and miles. Unfortunately the turbo 4 not the 3.6. https://www.mclaughlincadillac.net/used-McLaughlin+-2015-Cadillac-CTS-Luxury+AWD-1G6AX5SXXF0109861
Last year built XTS or Continental vs. LS430 as comfortable highway Q-ship cruiser based on total cost of ownership, driving experience and reliability. Discuss.
Black 2011 Town Car with chrome accents. Only car I'd ever rock with tinted windows.
Or final year LS430 if I stick to your list.
I was thinking Fusion platform Conti, not Panther, but yeah.
I think Panther because I wholly reject the stretched Fusion cars.
I sort of like the wheels.
"Nothing like Paul Niedermeyer going up a 30% grade in a 1960s Microbus he insists has sufficient power"
30%? Hell, when driving my '67 Bus with a 1500 single port up the 4% grade on M14 just west of the downtown Ann Arbor exit, I'd white-knuckle worry about getting rear ended by a semi as I slowed down. For my next Bus I built a 1648 dual port with a street cam, 009 distributor (I can't believe I remembered that after almost 50 years) and a Holley-Weber two barrel. That could run the same hill at 80 mph with no problem.
I drove a Lyriq two years ago and came away impressed. Interior was much improved in comparison to the available Cadillacs over here, which stopped with the CTS (we never officialy got the CT4/CT5 - bummer, as I would have bought a manual CT5 V Blackwing back then). It rode nice, too. But, just like you, I decided to not buy an EV as my everyday car. Period.